DustinSchmidt
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Well the beautiful thing about owning EF glass (if you held on to any...) is that you could use it on your Sony cameras this whole time and then pivot back to Canon.
C300: C300 Mark IV/C500 Mark III wishlist
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scorsesefan
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Just a sigma 18-35… If I’m patient I have a feeling Canon is going to announce something special this year. Really hoping for FF with a box body…
cpreston
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For what the cameras can do, I don't think buying any of the current cinema cameras at their going prices is a risk. If they fit a need, it's not like the next generation is going to get you appreciably better results. I ended up selling my C500 MKII's because I needed the money and had decided to switch to the RF mount because it made my work faster which is my primary concern. But if Canon just rereleased the C500 mKII with an RF mount at the current new prices, I would buy one without hesitation.
ahalpert
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I've held onto my EF glass but I don't see that as an incentive to switch back to Canon. Canon and Sony have both made huge strides in recent lens designs.Well the beautiful thing about owning EF glass (if you held on to any...) is that you could use it on your Sony cameras this whole time and then pivot back to Canon.
You'd also be shooting yourself in the foot using Canon glass on Sony this whole time. AF was one of the biggest reasons I bought into Sony, but you need E-mount lenses to fully exploit it.
morgan_moore
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So when I got the C200 I thught It would be a plceholder till the 300iii or 500ii became affordable.
I thought thoe cameras to be 'good enough'
I thought EF lenses to be 'good enough'
I mean 4k raw is good enough.
Having used the r6 and RF lenses and the launch of the 28-70/2 and 24-105 2.8
I feel the glass and AF has moved forward quite a bit.. my EF nifty is pretty shocking for AF
Which makes me question those EF cameras.
Where im sitting now a 500iii with the 24-105/2.8 and decent af is the 'for ever' camera, is the 500ii and ef24-105? a 'for ever camera' im less sure.
DustinSchmidt
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Of course the Sony lenses have the most direct integration with Sony bodies and should perform the best.
I've heard good things from people using the Sigma EF mount lenses with the MC-11 adapter on Sony bodies, but I don't have direct first-hand experience with that.
I suppose it depends on how extreme your autofocus needs are. Are you tracking motocross bikes flying through the air or formula one race cars? Do you need to keep toddlers in focus as they run around a playground? Are you just keeping a talking head in focus for interview scenarios?
I think depending on what your use case is, you may be able to get by with less than the direct Sony integration. But of course, the Sony lens to Sony body is always going to be the top of the line for camera to lens communication.
Ha!
I don't think you can claim the EF 50mm F1.8 was ever a great performer for video. It was barely enough for beginners shooting stills.morgan_moore
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Ha!
Well im not a kit snob, I think 1.2 lenses are heavy jewelery . In good light the lens is excellent. Once the light goes it hunts badly. I could ride an RF 50 without going all in for RF.
I would not want to fork for a rf 24-105/2.8 or 28-70/2 without it fitting my 'A' camera.
I can give you another recommendation: The EF 85 F1.4 IS is rock steady on a Canon C70 (even before turning the digital stabilization on). It is now my favorite handheld lens ahead of any 24-70 or 24-105.
I initially regretted buying it just before the RF 85mm came out, but as the RF version is much more expensive, I can't complain. It's great value for money, and you can probably get one used.
ahalpert
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3rd party E-mount lenses can also perform well, although it comes down to the specific model.
In my opinion, autofocus performance isn't good enough yet that I'd want to yield any quality/consistency. And a lot of the issues are not even about pure speed but rather behavior, like does it every switch to the background or another subject. I'm surprised by how much the lens affects this rather than just the camera.
But regarding speed, even if you're just shooting a medium shot of someone walking towards camera on 85 f/1.4, a sluggish lens will buzz repeatedly. And that's not a sports or extreme situation.
I guess I just feel like if you're going to shell out loads for the latest camera, then at the moment the latest lenses are also worth considering.
Canon has some advantages over Sony in how they handle AF. Like I think there's a video AF mode that feathers the rack so it settles into the new mark rather than snapping to it?
But with either brand, I think it's smart to go with lenses from the last 5 years if you're going to use AF.
morgan_moore
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The 85 ive used has poor minimum focus and a very sloppy focus ring - total jewel
morgan_moore
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i think it might be the ef 1.2? im not across all the models - certainly it was a fat one 77-82 front) - it seems they make a 1.4 and 1.2
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ahalpert
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No, Sony has that too
I actually can't find reference to what I recall... maybe I hallucinated it? I thought that when I was comparing systems years ago that I read that Canon had the ability to feather the rack. And maybe it was just like that when you switched to movie servo AF. But I'm not seeing anything on it now. Maybe I imagined it because sometimes I hate the way my AF snaps into place. I apologize if I passed bad information. Now I dont know what to think.
The AF on the EF 85 f1.2 was slow even for photography. I guess that is what happens when you have to move a lens element that weighs a ton.
ahalpert
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yeah that's why all the new heavy lenses have 2 or even 3 motors so they can push and pull the elements from opposing sides. much snappier
Eric Coughlin
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Well, the Canon C400 got 2, 6, 7, 9, 24, 31, and 51, so, that's 7 out of 52 items I asked for. That's 13.4% success, which means .67 (rounded to one) star out of 5 for my Yelp review.