Rings of Power - Spoilers
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The cinematography felt ok(might really be good on a proper HDR compatible OLED, i’ve been on the road and had to make do with what was available and the TV was clipping the highlights, and made it look a bit cheaper looking in some scenes.). but also feels but informal for such a big epic film. A lot of overly shallow DoF or really close and tight on actors while handheld and shallow dof. not my preference, but they pulll it off. special effdcts look a bit rushed, of TV here and there, but the scale of this project, feels like every shot has some CGI. Definitely an expensive show, but looks more like money was thrown at it than being built from the ground up.
As a complete project they’ll have a lot to be proud of, but there are a lot of little shots and scenes that feels a bit off. So i feel this series will end up being an amazing reference for both what works and what doesn’t work.
overall it feels like fun tv, and it is nice to have something other than Marvel and Star Wars on this scale.
As a complete project they’ll have a lot to be proud of, but there are a lot of little shots and scenes that feels a bit off. So i feel this series will end up being an amazing reference for both what works and what doesn’t work.
overall it feels like fun tv, and it is nice to have something other than Marvel and Star Wars on this scale.
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Shot by 3 DP’s, all who seem to specialize in the horror genres.
Aaron Morton 4 episodes (black mirror, orphan black, 6 days, evil dead 2013, and american gods…)
Alex Disenhof 2 episodes (code 8, legion…)
Oscar Faura 2 episodes (jurrasic world: fallen kingdom, the imitation game…)
Camera and lenses Arri Alexa LF/Mini LF and Signature Primes and DNA primes
Aaron Morton 4 episodes (black mirror, orphan black, 6 days, evil dead 2013, and american gods…)
Alex Disenhof 2 episodes (code 8, legion…)
Oscar Faura 2 episodes (jurrasic world: fallen kingdom, the imitation game…)
Camera and lenses Arri Alexa LF/Mini LF and Signature Primes and DNA primes
Episode 1 felt like there was a lot of editing to wrangle the episode in to the time target. That probably means it went to plan and nothing was left on the floor, haha.
A lot of characters to introduce. Sweeping shots to extreme closeups, abrupt change of locations.
Episode 2 things pickup, conflict and suspense really click in. Action sequences and build ups worked fairly well.
A lot of characters to introduce. Sweeping shots to extreme closeups, abrupt change of locations.
Episode 2 things pickup, conflict and suspense really click in. Action sequences and build ups worked fairly well.
Batutta
Major Contributor
Actually, no. It looks amazingly expensive. Seriously was stunned by the scale in these first two episodes and how well executed the visual effects are. It's on par with the rest of the films in my opinion. I'm really enjoying it so far. Interesting set ups and conflicts and very well cast, with strongly delineated characters. Much better than the Game of Thrones spinoff and the Hobbit films.
ahalpert
Major Contributor
One of the things I reacted to in the trailer was that the lighting feels clean and sourcey, and makes me feel like I'm on a soundstage. A lot of the scenery and the shots surrounding the characters feels like a video game.
Batutta
Major Contributor
I didn't get that feeling watching the show itself. Color timings can change between the trailers and the actual show which alter the look, and I imagine the CGI and composites were refined right up until release. I've learned shows even update stuff AFTER they've gone online, doing live patches to unfinished effects or continuity errors. Stranger Things has done this a couple times. The original LOTR films definitely have a more lived in edge that I think comes from being shot and finished on 35mm film. That integrates the effects and CGI into the image in a more realistic way, but there was nothing in this that took me out of the experience at all.
i felt similar to Abe at first, but later on i changed some settings and felt it looked really good after that. During this transition to HDR, for some reason there seems to be this thing where grading for SDR looks like an after thought. It shouldn’t matter, but i’m just talking out my butt. I just remember when HD happened, everything was over sharpened and crystal clear to utilize the HD factor. it looked bad. I feel that is kind of the attitude towards HDR…. it has to look HDR. hopefully it will settle down a bit. But yeah for this show, tv settings seem important. but that is true of any sfx heavy show.
ahalpert
Major Contributor
Ah, you see, I think it can be difficult to tell from two episodes what the creators are really trying to say. And often times “good old entertainment” is using old tropes that really feel like propaganda to younger crowds and foreigners. So again, it can be difficult early on to know what is intentionally political or sexist or what not, and what is trope or satire,
Batutta
Major Contributor
The point of storytelling and filmmaking in particular is to put you, the viewer, in the shoes of another individual and experience events through a different point of view. This requires empathy. As a minority who grew up watching Hollywood films, I almost never saw myself reflected on screen unless I was getting blown away by Dirty Harry or something. Nonetheless, I was able to enjoy movies because I had some empathy and was able to connect with many white male heroes due to the skill of the storytellers and filmmakers. Now, these white boys (and let's be honest, this is who is complaining loudest) who have never needed empathy to enjoy a movie because they always saw themselves reflected back on screen, are suddenly shocked when they are not portrayed as paragons of virtue, strength, virility and sexual desire at every moment in a story.
Doug Jensen
Carbonite Member
I haven't seen the show in question, but that has to be one of the dumbest and most racist posts I've seen on DVXuser.
Batutta
Major Contributor
Really? It's just an explanation about why a certain demographic of fan is so offended that Rings of Power has a powerful female character at its center, brown elfs and hobbits in it. Because Tolkein did describe Galadriel in heroic terms, and described a group of hobbits as having browner skins, and the show is still like filled with 80 percent white characters. I can only conclude it's their racism and sexism that is driving these complaints and their efforts to review bomb it. They feel threatened by it.
I perhaps didn't give enough context to my comments, and you may not be familiar with the controversy surrounding the show, but the criticism from some loudly vocal fanboys is that the show has gone 'woke' because they portray Galadriel as heroic, and it has black characters in it. These are the people review bombing the sites. The culture has changed and some aren't happy about it, and the backlash is getting extreme. If Aliens came out today, people would complain it's 'woke' because it has a female hero and most of the male characters are dumb and useless. Strange times.
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ahalpert
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I don't think that what Batutta said is racist. Seems like he's just accusing other people of racist leanings. It's, at worst, speculative. It's not like he said that all white people feel that way.
And I've certainly observed, both in person and online, when people take issue with a character being cast with a non-white actor because they thought the character was white or just wanted them to be. But it's a one-way street since they have no problem with characters from literature who are explicitly described as non-white being played by a white actor.
And I've certainly observed, both in person and online, when people take issue with a character being cast with a non-white actor because they thought the character was white or just wanted them to be. But it's a one-way street since they have no problem with characters from literature who are explicitly described as non-white being played by a white actor.
Batutta
Major Contributor
I can see someone unfamiliar with the controversy taking issue with what I said, as I wasn't clear enough I was referring to the specific fans who are mad and review bombing this show (who are mostly male, young and white). I've been having this argument all week with other people and brought that into this forum without context.
Doug Jensen
Carbonite Member
That right there is a perfect lead into any racist, bigoted statement rooted in stereotypes. I could give you some historic examples of such statemtns, but I don't think they would be taken in the light intended. Think about it. Every racist starts off by telling you they aren't a racist -- just before they say something racist.
Next you'll tell us that some of your best friends are male, young and white.
I'm not calling you a racist. I don't know you. I just suggest you rethink your posts because they sure sound racist no matter how much you think they are rooted in fact.
Batutta
Major Contributor
You lopped off the second half of my sentence. I was discussing a certain demographic...OF FAN...specifically TOLKEIN FAN in the context of this controversy. Is ANY discussion of race implicitly racist? This controversy is rooted in race. I didn't drag it into the discussion surrounding this show, the angry racist, bigoted fans did. I was attempting to understand the psychology of these fans and why they feel so threatened by it. Me using the term 'white boys' was crude and too racially charged, but you can't discuss this controversy without talking about race and the 'anti-woke' sentiment behind it which is mostly driven by young white males.