JVC's answer to the HPX300- THe JVC GY-HM700

Well, Dan, I'll obviously try both out, and I'm sure the 300 will look amazing- but you also do motorsports shooting, so you must understand part of my dilema...

Over here, I also heard many horror stories with JVC gear. A friend of mine had his h100 repaired more times than I can remember. Every time, it was something CCD related. The design of the 100 was obviously flawed. However, I must say I was very impressed by the footage I saw from him with a 35mm adapter. It was superb, and solid.

My main concern is obviously the 300's Rolling SHutter. I'm very, very reluctant on going Sony and the EX series, mainly because I really hate the Sony look (which would mean extra work in Post), and its ergonomics, but it seems like its rolling shutter issues are not as severe as the 300. However, I will definitely take priority on the 300 and give it the benefit of a doubt. I've been very satisfied with Panasonic cameras untill now (excluding the jump from dvx100 to dvx100a) so I'll reserve my judgment when I get a chance to try it out.

Dan, what's your take on the 300? Your words on your last post made me feel a bit more confident about it. Will it work for most shooting situations? Like followin a racing car in a quick pan, handheld work, etc?
 
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Hi Sergio:

No, the 300 would definitely not work for your situation. I did a Drifting documentary a few years ago and shot road racing at Willow Springs and California Speedway so I am familar with the type of movement you will be shooting. The picture with any CMOS camera will have a lot of skew unless you are physically very close to the cars and will only shoot wide.

No, I would say that you are limited to a CCD camera for your needs, I wouldn't try any CMOS camera if I were shooting racing. I like the HPX500 except for the VF limitations.

Dan
 
VGurcu said:
Can somebody explain to me how HM700 'body only' price($7495) is more expensive than the 'body+Canon 14x lens' version($6995) please???
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...oHD_Solid_State_Camcorder.html#specifications
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...0U_GY_HM700U_ProHD_Solid_State_Camcorder.html
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First of all, we are considering picking this line up at our dealership. The camera is amazing and I think JVC has fixed all of the hickups from the 100 series tape cameras. What you are seeing is list price. Dealers are allowed to sell it as low as $6495 without the lens. $7495 is List Price.

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First of all, we are considering picking this line up at our dealership. The camera is amazing and I think JVC has fixed all of the hickups from the 100 series tape cameras. What you are seeing is list price. Dealers are allowed to sell it as low as $6495 without the lens. $7495 is List Price.
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Thanks Andrew. So they priced the body+lens version accordingly(less than the list price), but not the body. They must have rushed to list it...
I think it looks like a great camera with lots of potential. (especially for those of us who don't own a heavy duty tripod HPX300 requires, and didn't invest in P2 cards yet) So if this camera delivers what it promises I see no reason why it wouldn't sell...
 
am trying to get JVC to let me have the 700 for a day to review but had no word back from them...looks like a very good camera.
 
philip bloom said:
am trying to get JVC to let me have the 700 for a day to review but had no word back from them...looks like a very good camera.
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I would love to see yourstuff with this camera, Phillip. You really need to show us what that camera can do! :)
 
philip bloom said:
am trying to get JVC to let me have the 700 for a day to review but had no word back from them...looks like a very good camera.
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They are holding this one tight. If we go this route, we will get one for our store to demo. You are more than welcome to it. If you are interested, please PM me.

Thanks,

Andrew Hoffman
 
am getting a 700 to review next week. Does anyone know if it will have the same 35mm adaptor image flip function as the 200/250?
 
am getting a 700 to review next week. Does anyone know if it will have the same 35mm adaptor image flip function as the 200/250?
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From JVCproHD site:
"The camera(700) features an "image flip" function that corrects for the inverted image produced by prime lenses. "

looking forward to reading your review...
 
Barry_Green said:
Anyway, with all other things being equal, of course bigger will always be better. 2/3" beats 1/2", and 1/2" beats 1/3", and 1/3" beats 1/4". But, with the Japanese companies, you'll almost never ever get a case of "all other things being equal". They'll always carve out some unique market niche and let the others have their own niche. Panasonic gives you 1/3" chips and the best recording system ever produced on a camcorder, 10-bit AVC-I. Sony gives you 1/2" chips, but sticks you with MPEG-2 long-GOP recording. So the choice you have to make is: do the bigger chips make up for the worse recording media/format? Or does the better recording media of the 300 make up for it having smaller chips? Don't ever expect the Japanese companies to truly deliver a knockout blow to their competitors; they instead seem quite content to play leapfrog.
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The Flash XDR reports that it is 8-bit 50 or 100 Mb/s GOP MPEG2 using the Sony EX codec. Other than that it is futures. 100Mb/sec H.264 10-bit 4:2:2 I-frame only should surpass either. They have specified futures that add 10-bit and 160Mb/s I-frame.

And there is the AG-HPG20...it records HD-SDI to AVC Intra 100/50, DVCPro HD and SDI to DVCPro50. It has a screen, waveform and vector monitors. My only complaints there are no HDMI input (from small camcorders or new hybrid still cameras)/output (to inexpensive displays, the MXO2 has this), recording only to P2 with no eSATA or express34 interfaces, and only supporting I-frame only H.264, 100Mb/s 10-bit, 4:2:2 Long GOP H.264 would be amazing. And the $4600 price.

Does someone here have a Flash XDR? Another option is a Matrox MXO2 which does record 10-bit 4:2:2 but his much bulkier and requires a PC.
 
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