Normal noise in my footage????(clip included)

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I want to know if its normal or not
As you can see there is some noise or compression artefact on the trees,the handrails, and the green snow pants.
here is the scene file settings, but ive use spark before that specific shot and there is no change at all
synchro scan =1/48
detail level=+3
v detail level=0
Detail coring=+1
Chroma level=+7
Chroma phase=-3
Color tempach=0
Color tempbch=0
Masterped=-20
Airis=0
DRS=0
Gamma=cinelike V
knee=auto
Matrix=nom1
skintone DTL=off


manual iris
shutter 1/250
nd 1/16
gain=0


Here is the clip


http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zyejnhzftyz

Thank you

 
Im downloading your file but my connection is slow .Any chance of posting a screengrab !

edit it will done in hour or so.
I'll postback later
 
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Iam at work and for now I only have acces to a g5, so I cant use FCP with AVCHD, Maybe later I will have acces to a intel mac. But i dont know if we can see the the problem with a still frame.
 
not having seen much footage from this cam, it does look noisy. I certainly hope it's just your settings, as I am about to dump a fine Z1 for one of these babies. Did you shoot this in 1080?
 
I dont see a problem with this clip. No artifacting and yes there is chroma noise.

Cine V adds noise and so does high chroma level combined with a low Master Ped setting.
Try norm2 or fluo if you down wont to use a cinelike matrix.
 
Im in South Amerrica so weather conditions here a totally different but I dont shoot below Master Ped -10.
 
Okay thx,
I will play with my setting a little bit more. That exactly the answer that I wanted.
but why alot of person are using cinelikeV if it add so much noise.
 
I use to use Cinema like gammas because coming from an FX-1 the only way to get the film look was to use a 30fps setting that Sony added to help make the 1080i video look progressive.

After I got my 150 I tried the Cinelike gamma curves but I switched back to HD Normal mostly because of the added "grain" - "noise".

I don't know if it's the Panny Mojo or the nature of all progressive cameras but a more natural film look seems to come easier with this camera over my FX-1 and if I can get it without the added noise... All the better.
 
Was DRS set to on? DRS adds noise, especially in the darks.

Your clip looked fine in the beginning, with some noise in the green pants and a little in the sky, but at the end in the snow it was pretty grainy. That's why I'd suspect DRS. Chroma level +7 is highly amplifying the chroma, therefore you should expect noise to follow in the colors, especially a saturated color like those green pants.

Cine-V isn't noisy, and a lower master pedestal hides noise. Detail +3 is going to amplify the presence of noise. Try detail +0, and coring +3 to +5, and make sure gain and DRS are off, and maybe back the chroma level down some, and you should see your noise pretty much disappear.
 
Barry_Green said:
Was DRS set to on? DRS adds noise, especially in the darks.

Your clip looked fine in the beginning, with some noise in the green pants and a little in the sky, but at the end in the snow it was pretty grainy. That's why I'd suspect DRS. Chroma level +7 is highly amplifying the chroma, therefore you should expect noise to follow in the colors, especially a saturated color like those green pants.

Cine-V isn't noisy, and a lower master pedestal hides noise. Detail +3 is going to amplify the presence of noise. Try detail +0, and coring +3 to +5, and make sure gain and DRS are off, and maybe back the chroma level down some, and you should see your noise pretty much disappear.
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Thanks Barry. the drs was off. Iam gonna try those settings tomorow. IS there any good way to properly set the master ped with the scene iam shooting.
 
Properly? That's up to you and what look you like. The lower you set it, the deeper the blacks will be and the more contrast your scene will exhibit. The higher you set it, the milkier the blacks will be - and, the more noise may intrude in the image.
 
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