FCP7, Blu-Ray, Final Cut Studio 3???

HVXOU

HVXOU

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Hey have we heard any word on if there is going to be a major update, or has Apple left us high and dry? Adobe is really going all into this market, I feel like Apple should be planning something big...
 
I figured, but I feel like they are hurting themselves here, because I am really due for an upgrade and every day Adobe looks more enticing, especially with the ability to import Final Cut Projects...
 
HVXOU said:
I figured, but I feel like they are hurting themselves here, because I am really due for an upgrade and every day Adobe looks more enticing, especially with the ability to import Final Cut Projects...
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oooh! tell me about this! I have FCS2 and Premiere CS3. Do I need CS4? Is this a drop and play?
 
I've used both and I can tell you Premiere and Encore have a long way to go before I'd drop Final Cut Studio for them. Now Photoshop, Illustrator and After Effects totally rock boots but not the other video apps just yet. With FCP- good things always come to those who wait but it's all secret. Nobody knows outside of Apple.

Noah
 
Apple will come up with something.

They were the first to shatter the glass ceiling on HD post-production. They're very media savvy and I don't think they'll let this growing part of the market get away for long.
 
to be honest, I am really not holding my breath on fcs3, I may sound crazy but I am very very happy with fcs2. besides apple is making a killing selling iphones and ipods but I am sure they are aware of the revolution they created for post production with fcs2 so I hope they can improve an already great product and if not well thats too bad
 
NoahK said:
I've used both and I can tell you Premiere and Encore have a long way to go before I'd drop Final Cut Studio for them. Now Photoshop, Illustrator and After Effects totally rock boots but not the other video apps just yet. With FCP- good things always come to those who wait but it's all secret. Nobody knows outside of Apple.

Noah
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I also have used both, and as much as I am an Adobe supported, I must agree with you that Premiere has a long way yet. However, I personally am finding a lot of advantages about Encore over DVDSP. They really did not change much with the upgrade from Studio 1 to Studio 2. Not to mention, Apple needs to jump into the Blu-Ray market soon - at least in my opinion.

And yes Photoshop, Illustrator and After Effects rock!
 
NoahK said:
I've used both and I can tell you Premiere and Encore have a long way to go before I'd drop Final Cut Studio for them.
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I echo that sentiment. I don't always think Apple listens as well as it could to its user based but insofar as Premiere/Encore versus FCP/DVDSP, there really is not comparison in the areas that I and others use mostly, and the sophistication, lack of bugginess and ease of use.

NoahK said:
Photoshop, Illustrator and After Effects totally rock boots but not the other video apps just yet.
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I agree as well. It doesn't get much better than AE and PS. I just wish AE had more RT performance, but what application. And PS is well, Photoshop.
 
Don't get me wrong, I still think that FCP has an advantage over Premiere (at least in CS3), but Adobe tends to listen to their users much more than Apple does. So, in time I still believe Adobe can be a true competitor in the marketplace, especially being cross platform. If Apple really wanted to get a firm grasp of the market, they could introduce their OS/FCS2or3 to the PC world.

Game over...
 
HVXOU said:
If Apple really wanted to get a firm grasp of the market, they could introduce their OS/FCS2or3 to the PC world.

Game over...
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Ha- but that would never, ever happen. The point of the software is to sell the hardware, not just itself.

Noah
 
HVXOU said:
Not to mention, Apple needs to jump into the Blu-Ray market soon - at least in my opinion.
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No kidding! But I'm afraid Sony has a big chunk in the decision Apple is making on how/when to implement BluRay. I don't see this happening anytime soon, unless Sony opens up the architecture. Licensing costs are cost prohibitive right now I assume.

We'll see. Should be simple right? Drop into QT a Blu-Ray code module and add a button on DVDSP. Easy!!

HA!

Oh well. We can hope.

CaptM
 
I don't know though I mean there already moving toward that direction anyway. The ability to run Windows on the Mac side, and the fact that their OS runs on an Intel processor, ATI/Nvidia Graphics, and the rest is pretty much PC standard. The only thing is that special Apple chip that makes the thing legit.

I wouldn't put it past apple to take the route to the pc world. But I do understand the hardware sales.

The architecture is supported by a lot of programs already though. Simple ones like Toast and Nero and more in depth ones like Encore. So its out there. But your right they could but Blu-Ray in a patch...why have they not?
 
HVXOU said:
I don't know though I mean there already moving toward that direction anyway. The ability to run Windows on the Mac side, and the fact that their OS runs on an Intel processor, ATI/Nvidia Graphics, and the rest is pretty much PC standard. The only thing is that special Apple chip that makes the thing legit.

I wouldn't put it past apple to take the route to the pc world. But I do understand the hardware sales.
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It has been and, w/o a completely new business model, always will be about selling hardware, IMO. For example, the one and only reason Apple can sell over $30k worth of software (the Final Cut suite) for $1299 is because they know it sells hardware. When Apple bought Shake they did a couple of big price slash for the Mac version because it sold hardware. OS X sells hardware. iLife (which used to be free a few years ago) sells hardware. iTMS sells hardware. The iPhone app store sells hardware. Windows support sells hardware. Apple tried licensing their OS back in the mid 90's and that didn't go to well (I think the Clones only lasted a couple of years).

The architecture is supported by a lot of programs already though. Simple ones like Toast and Nero and more in depth ones like Encore. So its out there. But your right they could but Blu-Ray in a patch...why have they not?
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My thoughts as well. BR authoring apps are out there and Apple helped lead the way w/desktop DVD authoring back in the day, so what gives now? IMO Jobs sees Sony and BR as distribution competition to the iTMS and that's why Apple is dragging it's feet supporting BR.


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Seeing the way you put the hardware, I agree with you now. And as for the dragging of the feet, they are only hurting their users IMO. It is really time to recognize the need at this point.
 
HVXOU said:
Seeing the way you put the hardware, I agree with you now. And as for the dragging of the feet, they are only hurting their users IMO. It is really time to recognize the need at this point.
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Agreed, Apple is 'pulling a Sony' IMO. A downside to how diversified Apple has become over the past few years. They provide content distribution as well as content creation tools.


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adkimery said:
Agreed, Apple is 'pulling a Sony' IMO. A downside to how diversified Apple has become over the past few years. They provide content distribution as well as content creation tools.


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The problem is the iTunes Store- why would Apple want to enable a format that would eat into their movie and TV series sales on the store. Not to mention Apple TV. It's a shame for us the content producers but I can totally see where it makes less business sense for Apple to essentially offer a huge leg up to a competitor- especially with Sony's licensing schemes in place for Blu-Ray. Perhaps they are hoping to wait it out- we're only a few years away from physical media going the way of the 2400 baud modem IMHO.

How many music audio tapes have you bought lately? What about CDs? Vs. downloads? You can see the writing on the wall.

Noah
 
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