In defense of Oleg

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Noiz2

Noiz2

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Oleg got banned again, fifth time. Now he will come back with some new name, he always does. But my point is that though he can seem abrasive, I surely have been the focus of some of those, he is also a very knowledgeable mixer AND there is a language barrier. He tends to use S*it and some other expletives more than most, but I think this is poor translation more than outright aggression. I guess my point is that there are not that many experienced working professional (in audio) that regularly respond on this board. And while he can be, often is (or seems) aggressively antagonistic. I would put it out there that he is no more so that a lot of what one has to deal with in the biz. Directors have been known to throw furniture at mixers, so a little abusive language seems a bit tame. Anyway I'm worried that banning folks may be not the right thing to do in all cases. Oleg brings a lot of knowledge to the table and he is pugnacious enough to keep coming back. I'm not sure I would be. Professionals can get passionate about what they do, isn't that a good thing? If they get banned for being professionally passionate are we not risking the elimination of the professionals from the board? This comes home a bit since I was the one arguing with Oleg and it seemed unfair that he would get banned and I not. Then I though, would I come back? Maybe, maybe not. And if I wouldn't how many other pros will be lost with this policy? I think one needs to balance good information and helpfulness with passion and language barriers. What people in the US say in person is radically different from what we are willing to accept on line. Oleg didn't say anything that I haven't heard in person, and his private emails are even more spicy. The point is that with folks who are not english "society" natives some guidance may be in order rather than just kicking them out. The alternative is having the board not having the professional responses that it has now. You ask a question now and you have evey one from a high-school student with no experience to pros with LOTS of experience answering. Personally I think that is a good thing.

Well enough of my rant. But if the list can't handle Oleg then it can't handle 90% of what a working professional deals with every day.

Cheers
SK
 
SK, I appreciate what you're saying. But just because abuse goes on in the business every day, that's no reason to bring that stress and negativism into a place like this.

If allowances is made for one or two people, then everyone will have to be allowed the same freedom. I have seen what that kind of arguing, namecalling, and anger can do to destroy an otherwise effective forum. I, for one, don't want to see that happen here.

A movie shoot is a stressful environment. Tempers flare. It's a heat-of-the-moment kind of thing. On a forum such as this, we have the luxury of time. We can take our time and formulate what we want to say carefully. There is no reason why tempers have to flare and small disagreements escalate.

It's a shame that a working professional has to be shut out because he (or she) cannot control the urge to insult and belittle someone else. But while it's unfortunate to lose the input that is of value, there is a larger issue here -- a greater good, if you will. In my opinion -- and that's all it is -- the survival of this board as a place for people to converse and share information and ideas is more important than the input, valuable or not, of any one or two or ten people. Even experts.

I hope that Oleg will come back. His information is valuable. But nobody should have to wade through post after post after post of arguing and personal attacks just to find the nuggest of useful information.

Again......just my opinion. :)
 
am i the only one who sees something underlined in a post and tries to click on it even though i'm sure it's not a link?
 
I think a true professional should conduct themselves professionally in every way. I don't care how good they are at doing their job if their attitude stinks. There's a big difference, IMO between a few rough spots due to artistic passion, and outright hostility. Getting kicked off FIVE TIMES! Come on... Take the hint already and leave it alone.
 
I personally don't give a **** what Oleg says, doesn't bother me a bit unless he started running scams and selling fraudulent mics /sound gear stealing from people. He never stole from me. Ha! think that was a link :)

Peace!
 
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