PAL vs NTSC (pro/cons)

CiPO

CiPO

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Hi guys

I posted this question also on the Canon forum (here) but I thought this would apply also for our panny. Which pro/cons do you see e.g. in buying the HMC150 NTSC format and then using it in Europe ?
Now that everything is more or less digital would it make a real difference ?
Of course we got different frane rates but maybe that is not so bad after all since the 24p is almost as the 25p :)
What do you think ?
THX
CIPO
 
yes they have. So NTSC will have the 30/60 modes while PAL will have the 25/50. Both have 24p too.
Do you see any cons in using an NTSC vs PAL cam then ? Not considering the frame rates ?
THX
 
Pratical
shoot pal for pal
and
ntsc for ntsc .
Playback is smooth.
Conversion are needed when you have to use a shot or shots that are shot in a different format/ framerate or framesize for SD, then the one your editing in.

There is no visual difference between footage shot in 24p and 25p with the same camera ofcourse. There IS just alot more work to do when converting one to the other.

Personally I love work with Pal SD / HD 16:9 footage 50i or 25p, especially for broadcast.
 
This used to be a more weighted question when considering standard definition PAL vs standard definition NTSC because SD PAL was definitely better. Better motion at 25p being delaced from 50i and also more vertical resolution at 720x576. If you were doing a film transfer if would be very beneficial to shoot PAL even if you were in an NTSC world.

Nowadays, there is no real advantage to PAL over NTSC and since you can shoot 24p now, there isn't the fps advantage of PAL's 25p. But if you are in Europe you might as well use PAL if you are ending on tape or for broadcast or dvd. For internet, you can have just 24p and keep it at that fps.

You can always use a program like DVFilm Atlantis or Nattress to convert your footage from PAL to NTSC and vice versa, but Everts is right that it's easier to shoot PAL for PAL and NTSC for NTSC.

So I'd say use the PAL HMC150 if you are in Europe since it can still do 24p if you want to shoot a film. Are you planning on moving or returning to an NTSC area soon?

Best,
Andy
 
Thanks guys for all the replies. A friend of mine is visiting US shortly (he is now there, I guess on the east coast) and he bought the HF11 NTSC (by mistake). He lives in Europe and he will be back soon (in Europe). Now he has this nice HD NTSC cam and wondering if he can live with it in Europe too.
Since he can shot HD digital then PAL vs NTSC resolution doesnt make sense. Unles the CCD/Senors in NTSC version are somehow different from the PAL ones (which I doubt).
Therefore if he can simply use to SW to convert (when needed) e.g. to burn a movie on DVD then it will be ok.
Hope I was clear enough :) sorry for my English.
THX
CIPO
 
one more .... If the cam is recording HD in AVCHD lets say at 24p or 30p .... does it matter if is it NTSC ? the editing sw can handle the source material (e.g. 30p) and as output he can decide to have 25p. Then any EU system will play it back. Isn't it so ???
THX
CIPO
 
Would an editing program manage to convert from 30p to 25p without noticing degrading in the video quality ?
Cheers
 
CiPO:

No problem in Europe to use North America Camcorder. Recently I recorded 1080p (downloaded from Apple website) onto my SONY HDR-HC3 and played on my brother's HDTV in China (PAL, and 1080i, which is 50i), I could not see any artifacts, even my SONY is 60i bought in America.
 
lifepo4 said:
CiPO:

No problem in Europe to use North America Camcorder. Recently I recorded 1080p (downloaded from Apple website) onto my SONY HDR-HC3 and played on my brother's HDTV in China (PAL, and 1080i, which is 50i), I could not see any artifacts, even my SONY is 60i bought in America.
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so why are we still buying this more expensive PAL HD cameras?
 
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