Music Video (D90) Danny Leeds

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Rick Horton

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Hi guys. This is my first music video for a band. This is a music video for Danny Leeds. The song is called Restricted. It was shot with a Nikon D90.
The performance was shot on short notice at a live show for the band, and the concept for the video is something that popped into my head while playing with the live footage. The live portion was shot in an hour, and the concept portion was shot a few days later during one day.
http://www.vimeo.com/2699597
 
it is nice but your cross fades look a bit cheap...way too many as well.
It kills the tempo of the song/video.
Try some dips or flash or something.

good work nontheless

thank you :)
 
looked pretty good but i lost interest after around 5 seconds and went on with other things. it's hard to get my attention though, so use my opinion if you can but take it with a grain of salt.

/matt
 
my post? i make music videos for a living myself, and while i definitely don't claim to make perfect or even always great ones i do know that people get bored quickly. you got around ten seconds at the most. it's not like a short film where you more or less know something interesting will happen sooner or later. i think that was constructive criticism.

/matt
 
I think this 'grab attention' MTV concept is changing, I feel that music videos will not be seen as a vehicle for music anymore, but an art concept in the same way as an album cover.

But for my inner critic, this clip needs a better edit
 
Grabbing attention has nothing to do with mtv or fast editing, it's part of the format, *especially* if you see it as art. You won't look at a boring record cover either, or a painting, or whatever where you're not hoping that it will get better soon, and why would it? If it's going to get better soon you better show that right away, then it can be even more interesting. nothing wrong with a slow start but it still has to grab the attention.
 
Matt. I have a few questions.
How much do you charge your clients to do a video?
Who choses the idea for the shoot? The concepts
Who does the make-up? Costumes? etc...
 
well, to be fair i make my living making films, some of them are music videos, i couldn't make aliving on them alone since the budgets are so small these days. a typical fee is 10% of the budget, but again with budgets being so small that doesn't make it worth it. what i do is i produce them myself and try to maximize my contribution margin by calling in favors and negotating discounts. a typical budget might be $2,000 and i try to get half of that, often i do but often it turns out less than the 10% i might get as a director from a production company. i usually do costumes and set design myself since i'm into that kind of stuff, but i hire people for everything needed that i can't or won't do myself, sometimes i dp myself sometimes not. as for the idea it's usually the director who comes up with it but then the band and the label have a bunch of ideas, both good and bad, that you need to bring in. sometimes the concept is already set when they come to me, but i usually decline those gigs since it's harder to control the budget and it's not as much fun.

(make sure you get the band or the label to pay as much as possible themselves outside of the budget. meals, transportation, props, costumes, it's easier than trying to get a bigger budget for some reason)

/matt
 
mattsand said:
well, to be fair i make my living making films, some of them are music videos, i couldn't make aliving on them alone since the budgets are so small these days. a typical fee is 10% of the budget, but again with budgets being so small that doesn't make it worth it. what i do is i produce them myself and try to maximize my contribution margin by calling in favors and negotating discounts. a typical budget might be $2,000 and i try to get half of that, often i do but often it turns out less than the 10% i might get as a director from a production company. i usually do costumes and set design myself since i'm into that kind of stuff, but i hire people for everything needed that i can't or won't do myself, sometimes i dp myself sometimes not. as for the idea it's usually the director who comes up with it but then the band and the label have a bunch of ideas, both good and bad, that you need to bring in. sometimes the concept is already set when they come to me, but i usually decline those gigs since it's harder to control the budget and it's not as much fun.

(make sure you get the band or the label to pay as much as possible themselves outside of the budget. meals, transportation, props, costumes, it's easier than trying to get a bigger budget for some reason)

/matt
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Matt. I don't understand the budget portion of what you are saying.
I was assuming that you just would come up with a price and throw it at the band.
This is interesting. You determine a budget and then you charge the band the budget and about half of that price? So, do you try to stay around the 3 grand mark to make it uniform for bands, or do you size the band up somehow before you start building a concept for a video? Then you call the band with the idea and budget?
I'm going to try to get into music videos. I don't really know how to get into what you are doing with production companies, and it overwhelms me a little to think about. Although I'd really like to.
 
they tell you how much they got, you lay out a budget, the say okay, you take the money, and try to only spend half. this means you take the risk but also that you can make more. it's called producing.

/matt
 
The crossfades didn't help and it didn't have much interesting aspects to it. Definitely much room for improvement, which is always a good thing! Keep at it.
 
all the time. which is why the budget is always very detailed. they know how many rolls of film we got and how many hours for set design, etc. i'm very loyal to the product though and "fairly" loyal to the bands, so i often spend more than i had hoped to get better results. as long as i don't lose money that's ok too.

/matt
 
they are, except the "fx heavy" one, go figure. :-) two grand is enough even including a small profit if you shoot 16mm or super 8 and do pretty much everything yourself. a more decent budget for film is around $5,000. more than that is hard to get often even from major labels, at least here in europe.

/matt
 
These budgets seem kind of low in Europe! I'm not sure of the exact numbers but I think they are much higher here in the US. $5000 seems to be the bare minimum for a low budget video on film, am I right?
 
Ruzo said:
These budgets seem kind of low in Europe! I'm not sure of the exact numbers but I think they are much higher here in the US. $5000 seems to be the bare minimum for a low budget video on film, am I right?
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when did you check? it's changed a lot the last three years or so. yeah it's the bare minimum, yet as i said i've managed to make a few on 16mm for $2,000. :-) i co-own a recording studio too and it's the same there. the typical budget for recording and mixing an album is around a tenth of what it could be.

/matt
 
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