Cigarette Girl movie - DVX100B and SGpro rev3

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Howdy,

I've posted a trailer for Cigarette Girl, we're hoping it to stand on its own as feature movie but it may go the webisode route as well. Please check it out, critiques and kudos are welcome. Oh yeah, for those sensitive to 'bad' language or blood hits, there is a little bit of that here.

Anyways, Cigarette Girl now has a website: http://cigarettegirlmovie.com/

This was shot mostly handheld on a DVX100B with an SGpro 35mm lens adapter. Canon FD lenses used: 28mm/f2.8, 50mm/f1.8, 70-210mm/f4-5.6.

These images are not intended as the final look in the movie. To showcase these images, I did perform a 'one light' color curves adjustment and also some minimal sharpening since I had reduced the cameras internal sharpening for potential upressing.

Some shots used natural/location light others used one or two 500w nook lights and sometimes a 1k. Minimal gels/diffusion was used since we were going for a stark noir-ish look when possible.





UPDATES:

Thank you so much for the positive comments everybody!

Anyways, just about finished with all the editing and sound work for Cigarette Girl. Originally this was only intended as a short webisode series, but after the initial edit late last year, our running time ended up being over 70 minutes, we decided to just go the feature route with intentions of elaborating on some backstory, missing cutaways and reshooting stuff that didn't cut well or just looked crappy.

Second unit camera, Chuck Scott, shot a couple things around New Years, then I shot a ton more stuff in February. Unfortunately, the February shoot we didn't have access to the DVX100B cameras as before, so we used my DVX100A and a borrowed DVX100. And I'll tell you the grain is SO much more evident. I suppose if I would have 'overlit' some of the interior shots, especially the darker scenes, I think I would have avoided that problem. Lesson learned. I was able to fix some of it with color correction, but sometimes not, SO, it is what it is. I've included some color corrected images from the February footage.





Also worth noting, we had a Letus (original model) with a flip unit on the DVX100; any footage with extreme brights, would blow out in a very unelegant manner so more care needed to be considered when using that camera. In my opinion, this one of the SG's major strengths in how it handles that.

And will have a world premiere in Perth Australia's Revelation Film Festival on July 10th, 2009.


AUGUST '09 UPDATE:

Hey there here is a brand new trailer for this movie with original music from Jonathan Kirkscey who had also scored the whole feature.


http://guerrillamonster.blip.tv/file/2430132

You can watch an even higher quality video by Selecting the Format to 'Source - mp4'. This is located below the video and its description.
 
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I'd like to see what you have for a trailer on the webpage however, it will not display.
 
That is weird, does the preview window atleast show up beneath the header/navigation? It is a Flash video, not sure what version of Flash you'd need. Admittedly, I don't think it checks for what version of Flash the user must have for it to playback. I'm using 10, but I'm certain if you have atleast ver 8 or 9 it should work. sorry.
 
played fine for me .liking it. luv the look...a little dialogue i coundnt make out like what the old woman said or the cowboy when the girl was on the bed.. i'll watch it again and see. blood spatter when the girl got shot with the rifle looks fake. but i really like it overall.

any behind the scenes photos? i always like to see that :)
 
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played fine for me .liking it. luv the look...a little dialogue i coundnt make out like what the old woman said or the cowboy when the girl was on the bed.. i'll watch it again and see. blood spatter when the girl got shot with the rifle looks fake. but i really like it overall.

any behind the scenes photos? i always like to see that :)

Thanx for lookin'. Yes, admittedly the dialog is a bit dodgey, most of the location audio was unsuable; for instance one of the locations took place in the downstairs of a functioning restaraunt/cafe and we were lucky enough just to have the space for the days that we did. That being said, we are and had always planned on doing ADR as we have many times for past productions.

Blood splatter is a bit exagerated (without any fleshy bits). Honestly we were lucky (again) that we got what we did, especially since that was a second take and time was of essence. We'll probably look into a little digital manipulation to add to it. Recommendations?

As for production fotos, yes we do have some at the site gallery, you'll have to dig around. Here is a couple pix though.


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yay!! thanks 4 the pics. i'm just starting out in this video/film thing so recommendation wise for the post for the blood splatter from me iz null :) . But it just looked as u say exaggerated a bit and the blood looked thin like...just like water splashing. I havent seen the film so this could very well be an artistic call.

luving the pics...and ur rig. i hope to get an sgpro some time when i make some money off the dvx i just bought:) i luv the look of it even though i;ve read its a light eating monster :D
can u tell me what shoulder mount is that ur using?

thankx

Darren.
 
Good trailer, it definetly had it's moments; the "I can't smoke at home!" line made me LOL.

I love the look of your film. It has a kind of retro, grindhousey, noir thing going. Your DP did a great job; the dvx along w/the sgpro really helped to capture that all to elusive "film look".

Keep us posted on how your project goes.

Out of curiosity, what inspired the idea for Cigarette Girl?
 
Looks Amazing to me good job nice, color.

Very cool idea. I'd love to watch the final product!
Thanx guys! I'm amazed at the natural color acheived with this lens adapter. This is the first time I've used a lens adapter so, I cannot compare with Nikons or others, but I'm am very please with these Canon FD lenses. I did also use a Tokina zoom lens that did maintain the natural warmth in the raw footage. I do have some knock off lenses FD mount and M42 mount that do seem much colder, more of a bluish cast similar to my impression of the stock lens.

We are premiering CG at the Memphis Film Festival in March 2009


Good trailer, it definetly had it's moments; the "I can't smoke at home!" line made me LOL.

I love the look of your film. It has a kind of retro, grindhousey, noir thing going. Your DP did a great job; the dvx along w/the sgpro really helped to capture that all to elusive "film look".

Keep us posted on how your project goes.

Out of curiosity, what inspired the idea for Cigarette Girl?

I'm glad you saw the humor, its suppose to be funny. I think sometimes it comes off too serious. There really is bits of humor throughout (albeit not as evident in this trailer), exactly like you say, in a grindhouse way. There needs to be some humor, otherwise the seriousness becomes laughable. Mike McCarthy, the director is largely influenced by more of the Something Weird catalog of the 60's/70s exploitation and distinctly, Russ Meyer's Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill!

As for the 'look', thank you so much! Fortunately the simple noir lighting is what we wanted to do, it was appropriate for the story and allowed us to work quickly and not be too bogged on how to light. My mantra was "rim light good, front light bad". I didn't want to be overly concerned with people falling into blackness; in fact I welcomed it. The B model of the DVX100 cameras has an incredible signal to noise ratio that allows the rich blacks to be maintained with minimal noise.

Admittedly, on occasion we had two DVX100B cameras, only one had the lens SGpro. We tried to only use the stock camera with wide establish shots or night exteriors. Sometimes I'd have the B cam, zoom in all the way for any CU detail shots, which atleast then there is some bokeh. The trailer actually has 6 or 7 shots that are with the stock lens.

Inspiration for CG? Welcome to the world of Mike McCarthy (aka JMM); I don't know the backstory for why he came up with it (or maybe I forgot). If you check out his other unpopular works at: http://www.guerrillamonsterfilms.com you might catch a glimpse of what makes him tick.
 
luving the pics...and ur rig. i hope to get an sgpro some time when i make some money off the dvx i just bought:) i luv the look of it even though i;ve read its a light eating monster :D
can u tell me what shoulder mount is that ur using?

Thanx! Yes these lens adapter certainly do require more light. I found that the minimum desirable amount of light I could get away with was 500w lamp (with no filters or diffusion) and that is for a moody scene that would take place in a medium sized room; that is also using my fastest lens, 50mm f1.8 and the camera's aperature wide open too. You could probably get away with 300w, but you risk the blacks start swimming with noise. I think the Letus and Brevis lose less light than the SGpro, but from what I understand, the new SGblade will be just as comparable.

The shoulder mount is a rig I found on eBay from India. It is actually pretty rugged, but also big and clunky. On the back it also has a place for me to place my battery for the external monitor. Overall, I had modified the shoulder rig some, I added some green bike grips for better comfort on the handles and added those bike handle bar extenders so I could hold the rig using the muscles in my arm more instead of my wrist. I kinda like the design of the shoulder rig attachments that Tim at Indifocus has; less weight and you could doubly mount it on a tripod.


"Rover"
 
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I love how punk-rock it looks! You have some great shots and most of the lighting works well. I'm not too fond of your titling (kind of "software default") but it may be temporary so I won't beat it to death. Webisodes are a tough sell but you may have something here cuz of the cool factor.

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I love how punk-rock it looks! You have some great shots and most of the lighting works well. I'm not too fond of your titling (kind of "software default") but it may be temporary so I won't beat it to death. Webisodes are a tough sell but you may have something here cuz of the cool factor.

Thank you and everyone else for your kind words. It definately was shot with a punk attitude considering we blazed thru over 60 script pages in 11 days; although looking back I wouldn't recommend doing that if you can afford the time. Especially without a script supervisor.

The titling style hasn't been determined and the font is going to be different, so thanx for not beating on it too hard :dankk2:
 
This is probably the weirdest and most ridiculous idea for a movie I have ever seen, and yet I WANT TO SEE THE WHOLE THING!

I don't usually like stuff that is this out of the ordinary, but the trailer is awesome. So are the shots and acting.

I can't smoke at home!
 
Well done Mate

At last an example of "The Film Look" in a practical situation. I'm so bored of people pulling focus through raillings.

It's amazing to see the adapter (Which is brilliant Wayne) used to its full potential. This is a truly amazing piece of film. It really has renewed my love of the DVX.

Look forward to seeing your other work.
 
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