5D II - Youtube footage - Not MUCH Skew... Hmmm

Perhaps my expectation have been skewed by the D90 (no pun intended), but the Akihabara News video doesn't look nearly as bad as I would have expected.

Neither the 5DII nor D90 are pro cameras, and these are first-generation dSLRs with video. I have an optimistic perspective on these new dSLRs, and mostly where these sensors may end up. Hopefully, as Nikon, Canon, and the others see that there are people very interested in video (and willing to put down money for it) they will address the concerns of users here (24p, maybe compression other then H.264, manual controls, etc.). Can't wait to see what coming year holds.

ando said:
i couldn't find too many sharp frames. the guy moves a lot

the DR is one of the most strage i've seen.
don't know what a user could do to get that since the camera adjusts itself, it's on auto mode
also there some color banding going on
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I think the guy is being instructed by a Canon representitive next to him (the person talking) on how to operate the camera. He seems to be pressing some buttons and taking pictures while the video is running it seems. Its not that great of a video, but luckily there are vertical lines for reference in front of him and he has shakey hands so its a decent video to look for skew. . . I wish he would whip it back and forth for us.
 
Like I said earlier from simply looking at Canon's examples, the 5DMk2 doesn't have as bad a rolling shutter problem as D90.. much much bettter..
 
booggerg2 said:
Like I said earlier from simply looking at Canon's examples, the 5DMk2 doesn't have as bad a rolling shutter problem as D90.. much much bettter..
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Well, to be honest, the Canon examples were pretty crap to judge from since they were all locked down. The D90 footage also looks great on a tripod.
 
I'm quite optimistic that the rolling shutter is much better with the 5D. If there is a workaround for the 30p issue (I'm in Europe, 25p is IMPORTANT here and not an esthetical question) this camera could become very useful.
 
joe 1008 said:
I'm quite optimistic that the rolling shutter is much better with the 5D. If there is a workaround for the 30p issue (I'm in Europe, 25p is IMPORTANT here and not an esthetical question) this camera could become very useful.
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Is there a reverse telecine type option for this??
 
you can only retime it to 24p. just like i've poste those samples of d90 footage in slowmotion (48fps) you can retime 30p to 24p

but that result has less quality than retiming from 25p (like HV20 european versions had 25p which was better than ntsc version of hv20 with 30p). but i really think canon didn't put 24p (or at least 25p) to limit it's high-end usage.
 
ando said:
you can only retime it to 24p. just like i've poste those samples of d90 footage in slowmotion (48fps) you can retime 30p to 24p

but that result has less quality than retiming from 25p (like HV20 european versions had 25p which was better than ntsc version of hv20 with 30p). but i really think canon didn't put 24p (or at least 25p) to limit it's high-end usage.
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Why do these companies shoot themselves in the foot?
 
Probably because Canon is working on a RED killer for about 10K. At least that is what I would do if I were Canon.
 
joe 1008 said:
Probably because Canon is working on a RED killer for about 10K. At least that is what I would do if I were Canon.
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Agreed. I assume that Canon is working on a full frame XH-camcorder solution. Eventually, Canon wants to capitalize on its EF-lens family, which requires much larger chips.. But for now, that's pure speculation.
 
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Matthew Bennett said:
Why do these companies shoot themselves in the foot?
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I don't think they are. These new cams will sell like hotcakes, and so will each following iteration, which will get closer and closer to what we want. None of these companies (Red included, to an extent) want to create perfection now. Though if you trust the grabs on Vincent Laforet's blog, maybe perfection will come very soon.

As long as 2k (ish) is all that's needed for the big and small screen, why release a cam that would give us no further reason to upgrade?
 
Oh, but these guys know what they are doing. They don't get to control the camera world market by shooting themselves in the foot. They make billions of dollars selling imaging equipment my friends. It isn't like they have a small niche in the market, they own the market. They make the cameras that the whole world buys. And they are getting smarter. They just put an extra capability in their higher end still cameras the same way they have been doing with their lower end ones. Nothing much to add to the cost of manufacturing and an extra selling point. They know that will keep their faithful photography base and add video costumers. Is a win win situation for them while they develop the technology. Eventually the convergence of still and video will be perfect and these big companies will make more and more money from it.
 
Having looked at the two and handled them, I've one key point you may have overlooked. The Canon has an external Mic connector. The Nikon does not. Sure the Nikon has a GPS connector instead, big deal :)
 
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