Chance White
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Anyone found a solution/workflow for FCP?
For now I'm just going to convert to DVCPRO 23.976 then reconnect for export.
For now I'm just going to convert to DVCPRO 23.976 then reconnect for export.
Editing D90 footage
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Park Edwards
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i'll have to check out what desktop is when i get home
I agree, I'd love to know a solid workflow.
dariomik
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Any chance for d90's 24p + hv20's 25P in one timeline? (I'm using avid liquid 7.2)
Don't have the d90 yet so can't even experiment.
Convert 25P to 24p first - then into one timeline??? Possible? Or 24p to 25p??? Big quality losses?
I know there's more issues between ntsc and pal than cadence (like lines) BUT:
Is d90 ntsc then? But it isn't 24p embedded in 60i? - pure 24p, right? So there might be chance 25p 1440x1080 dowrez'd to 720 could work with 1280x720 so lines wouldn't be a problem, right??
am I crazy?
hmmm Qs Qs Qs..
cheers
Don't have the d90 yet so can't even experiment.
Convert 25P to 24p first - then into one timeline??? Possible? Or 24p to 25p??? Big quality losses?
I know there's more issues between ntsc and pal than cadence (like lines) BUT:
Is d90 ntsc then? But it isn't 24p embedded in 60i? - pure 24p, right? So there might be chance 25p 1440x1080 dowrez'd to 720 could work with 1280x720 so lines wouldn't be a problem, right??
am I crazy?
hmmm Qs Qs Qs..
cheers
The D90's 24p is not embedded in anything The HV20 and other HDV camcorders embed 24p within 60i so that the resulting video is playable on ntsc devises, then for editting progressive video you need to do the pulldown. The D90 takes 24.000 frames per second (rather than 23.976) and puts them into a sort of wrapper which differentiates mjpeg from a series of jpg photos.
The D90's files have no interlacing of any sort, they are really just 24 photos per second. This is a sort of bizarre video format though because 720p is 23.976fps. You probably want to set things to a true 24 fps in your NLE or you could have synch issues with external audio, it would be out of sync 1 frame every 41.66 seconds if you edit at 23.976fps. Alternatively you could make it 23.976fps and retime any external audio.
dariomik
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Thanks Thebes 
So the fact that my hv20's PAL 25P is embedded in 50i (or is it?) would be a problem?
Anyway, would I have to retime the 25p to 24p to mix it with d90's 24p???
Or can I just drop my 25p into a 24p timeline (or vice versa) and let it render?
Sorry for these nagging Qs but lately it so happens that I rarely have a chace to lay my hands on my NLE at home as I'm mostly on the road driving truck cross country and my laptop is only fast enough for reading the forum - so no real NLE here..
can't wait to have d90 and more time..
Thx in advance - derek
So the fact that my hv20's PAL 25P is embedded in 50i (or is it?) would be a problem?
Anyway, would I have to retime the 25p to 24p to mix it with d90's 24p???
Or can I just drop my 25p into a 24p timeline (or vice versa) and let it render?
Sorry for these nagging Qs but lately it so happens that I rarely have a chace to lay my hands on my NLE at home as I'm mostly on the road driving truck cross country and my laptop is only fast enough for reading the forum - so no real NLE here..
can't wait to have d90 and more time..
Thx in advance - derek
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As far as editing a sequence in FCP. I got a response from a video I posted on Vimeo from a person named Jason Zada:
"Make sure you set your sequence to 1280x720, Apple ProRes Codec, 24fps (not 23.98) and SQUARE pixels. You should get good results with that."
I tested it and it looks a lot better!
"Make sure you set your sequence to 1280x720, Apple ProRes Codec, 24fps (not 23.98) and SQUARE pixels. You should get good results with that."
I tested it and it looks a lot better!
Chance White
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Excellent. Thank you for sharing that Mikey.
j
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>talking serious stuff here. you can surely use CS3 or 4
>if you have them but to play is one thing, working is another
>
>you say grading and color correcting. big words. but i doubt you
>know what that means. or what postproduction is.
>stick around you might learn something.
Whoh, ease up hard-guy!
This forum is open to all levels, from noob to industry leaders. If using AE for color grading is an upgrade from FCP for the new user, then so be it. Use your vast experience and knowledge to help teach rather than bashing someone upside the head with your ego stick.
>if you have them but to play is one thing, working is another
>
>you say grading and color correcting. big words. but i doubt you
>know what that means. or what postproduction is.
>stick around you might learn something.
Whoh, ease up hard-guy!
This forum is open to all levels, from noob to industry leaders. If using AE for color grading is an upgrade from FCP for the new user, then so be it. Use your vast experience and knowledge to help teach rather than bashing someone upside the head with your ego stick.
ESTEBEVERDE
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Park Edwards
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I posted this on another thread but it's good enough to post twice.
http://www.free-codecs.com/Motion_JPEG_Codec_download.htm
This codec really helped my workflow in Pro Cs3. It used to be laggy. It still has a red bar, but it plays and scrubs smooth. When I hit preview it takes forever, but it doesn't need a render preview. I even applied a few CC filters and it still played and scrubbed fine. The export was fine too.
http://www.free-codecs.com/Motion_JPEG_Codec_download.htm
This codec really helped my workflow in Pro Cs3. It used to be laggy. It still has a red bar, but it plays and scrubs smooth. When I hit preview it takes forever, but it doesn't need a render preview. I even applied a few CC filters and it still played and scrubbed fine. The export was fine too.
I have been able to play MJPEGS fine, but today when I was trying to use an AVI-synth script that wasn't working I tried to install this codec. Sorry to say this, but it is slow. I have an old computer but I could still use play MJPEGS with like 30% CPU usage. With this codec it's lagging and using 100%.
The codec is uninstalled but it doesn't seem make any difference; still 100%.How can I get my old codec (whatever that was) back?
The codec is uninstalled but it doesn't seem make any difference; still 100%.How can I get my old codec (whatever that was) back?
This driving me crazy. I can play files in VirtualDub without putting a strain on the CPU. Playing them in WMV/MPC/BSPlayer or similar is using 100% CPU.
I think I have tried every MJPEG codec there is now, looking for the one I had. Most of them puts less strain on the CPU (none as low as playing in VirtualDub though), but then the gamma (or something) is all wrong so I cant use them. See attached pictures to see what i mean with difference in gamma. The darker one is from using an efficient codec. The most efficient one I tried was Morgan MJPEG codec.
I don't know how to proceed anymore. I just want it to work the way it was.
I think I have tried every MJPEG codec there is now, looking for the one I had. Most of them puts less strain on the CPU (none as low as playing in VirtualDub though), but then the gamma (or something) is all wrong so I cant use them. See attached pictures to see what i mean with difference in gamma. The darker one is from using an efficient codec. The most efficient one I tried was Morgan MJPEG codec.
I don't know how to proceed anymore. I just want it to work the way it was.
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James H.
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It's a bit loony for pro/client work, but if your background is in photography/graphics like me, and you're having issues with the AVI wrapper on your Mac (PProCS3), you may feel comfortable opening the AVI files in Photoshop CS3 and exporting with MOV wrapper. Use "none" or "animation" codec and you should be okay.
In case you're wondering, you can apply most Photoshop filters, image correction, layer adjustments, etc, to your video layer just like any photo. I got sweet B&W movie results using the channel/high-pass/gradient-map scenario on some D90 output.
I wouldn't suggest this for most situations, but considering the D90 "movie" is technically a series of JPGs off a dSLR CMOS sensor, I don't think it's out of the question to do some initial adjustments in Photoshop before outputting to an MOV wrapper to bring into your NLE.
In case you're wondering, you can apply most Photoshop filters, image correction, layer adjustments, etc, to your video layer just like any photo. I got sweet B&W movie results using the channel/high-pass/gradient-map scenario on some D90 output.
I wouldn't suggest this for most situations, but considering the D90 "movie" is technically a series of JPGs off a dSLR CMOS sensor, I don't think it's out of the question to do some initial adjustments in Photoshop before outputting to an MOV wrapper to bring into your NLE.
Tried all MJPEG codec with no succes on many PC. Last Vegas works perfectly but i would prefer adobe
To select the right codec under windows you can use radlight filtermanager. You can install all codec and test it one by one.
I've read that the Nikon MJPEG is a variation based on Morgan so Nikon would have released its main MJPEG codec.
Coco Bermudez
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what are the specs of the FCP mac that previews fine?
memory error when importing D90 footages
memory error when importing D90 footages
When I import few D90 clips, everything ok. But when I import around 20-30 clips, it said that "there is not enough memory to import the requested files".
Anyone can help?
I am using Premiere CS3 on PC with 2GB RAM. I have tried DVCPROHD 25fps, Desktop with 24p project setting. My job is to mix D90 footages with HVX200 footages.
memory error when importing D90 footages
When I import few D90 clips, everything ok. But when I import around 20-30 clips, it said that "there is not enough memory to import the requested files".
Anyone can help?
I am using Premiere CS3 on PC with 2GB RAM. I have tried DVCPROHD 25fps, Desktop with 24p project setting. My job is to mix D90 footages with HVX200 footages.