The end of 35mm adapers and hv20s....

DSLR-killer...

That's what Jannard and Co. are calling their proposed DSMC (Digital Still & Motion Camera).http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18710

It would seem that the gap between DSxx cameras and motion picture makers is being bridged by a number of companies, and I'd like to think that this will only keep things moving more and more quickly toward "the end".
 
If the trend is truly going to be towards cameras like the D90 it is going to be fantastic. To me if the image wobbling and the lack of manual settings was corrected this camera would improve tremendously.
 
andersonnd said:
DSLR-killer...

That's what Jannard and Co. are calling their proposed DSMC (Digital Still & Motion Camera).http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18710

It would seem that the gap between DSxx cameras and motion picture makers is being bridged by a number of companies, and I'd like to think that this will only keep things moving more and more quickly toward "the end".
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Lame. Please release Scarlet in a timely fashion.
 
I am new to dvxuser and to video, but I am following the introduction of the D90 closely. I am not technically (or artistically) proficient at either video or stills but trying to learn. I came across this tidbit of information at freshdv.com.

UPDATE: There has been some confusion over whether or not the D90’s exposure can be completely manually controlled in D-Movie mode. Based on a few tweets by D90 user davidstripinis, it appears that the camera’s auto-exposure can in fact be locked by toggling on the following setting:

“Menu > Custom Settings > Controls > AE-L/AF-L for MB-D80″​
What this setting does is enable Auto Exposure Lock for the D90’s AF-ON button which is located on the vertical grip (or a similar button on the optional MB-D80 battery/grip pack). So now when you are shooting 720p HD video, you can press the AF-ON button to lock the exposure at any given time. While not technically a full manual mode, this is extremely useful and simple to implement/use.


interesting


rick
 
Norbert said:
How brochure-like. Well, they sure weren't lying. :D

bearing: Long time no post for me now. I'm still very interested in what you can find out using your trick. As soon as I get a D90 I will ask you for the PAL file and do some testing, but then again, I have a feeling you will get a hold of one before I do.
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=) Funny, that detail caught my attention as well.

Sure, I'll try to remember to upload the PAL version to a server next time I'm using the computer that contains the file. This will sure be interesting. You may get the camera faster than me. I'm far down on a cue for the body and the store was unsure if I would be able to buy it the on the release day. I may of course find one in a random store during a D90-drive around town.
 
I haven't followed the tread for that last 24 hours, so hopefully this hasn't already been discussed. I have been trying to figure out what the default shutter speed is, and I believe it is 1/30. Finally I came up with a non scientific test but it seems to be giving me consistent results. First I did my own variation on the Kohli technique. I set the AE button with the lens cap on instead of pointing it into the shadows. Next I placed a bright green piece of tape on the wheel of a small bike. Then I cranked the wheel in time with a metronome so that I had had a consistent RPM. Then I shot video and a series of stills with a variety of frame rates. The one that matched the video was 1/30. I did it a number of times and the result is the same every time. Also with the exposure compensation set to -1.0 the video matched having an ISO of 2000. I don't know if someone has tried something like this yet, but I thought it might be helpful. I'm going to try some other exposure compensation values and see if the shutter stays consistent.
 
Great Work. Joe. Can you post up some video of it?

Hmmm. ISo of 2000 @ -1.0. I wish that the shutter wouldn't change when you adjust that value. Then we would be onto something.
 
Good work Joe. Why does the shutter speed have to be a mystery. All Nikon had to do if that was the case was say: the shutter speed is set at X amount and the aperture would be set automatically by metering. But....

BTW: Kholi, did you see the warning on Active D-Lighting probably causing noise,, banding and mottling in photographs at high ISO sensitivities? May it affect DMovie in any way?
 
John Caballero said:
Good work Joe. Why does the shutter speed have to be a mystery. All Nikon had to do if that was the case was say: the shutter speed is set at X amount and the aperture would be set automatically by metering. But....

BTW: Kholi, did you see the warning on Active D-Lighting probably causing noise,, banding and mottling in photographs at high ISO sensitivities? May it affect DMovie in any way?
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I actually don't think that the D-Lighting is Active in movie mode. But, that's something to test. Let me take a look-see by switching back and forth, see what I get.

Thanks for the heads up!
 
Update: Changing the exposure control changes the shutter. -3.3 looks like 1/60. Im not so sure about the ISO anymore. -4.0 looks like about 1/125 but at that point there isn't much motion blur so it gets hard to tell. The result seems to be repeatable every time. Any suggestions on what else to try?
 
I've got a video of the Exposure +/- changing the shutter as well. To me, -4 looks more like 1/250 but you're probably right. It also changes ISO along with it. Check this clip from a few days ago to see if it's consistent with what you found: http://www.vimeo.com/1678911

ALso, as listed, you can switch the EV step over from 1/2 to 1/3 and get a few more "increments" out of it.
 
Why are people using exposure compensation? Can you not just shoot manual ISO with a say, 1/50th shutter (closest you could get to 180 degrees) and a manual aperture while in D-Movie mode? Or is it to have more control between stops...?
 
Andrew Brinkhaus said:
Why are people using exposure compensation? Can you not just shoot manual ISO with a say, 1/50th shutter (closest you could get to 180 degrees) and a manual aperture while in D-Movie mode? Or is it to have more control between stops...?
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The only manual adjustments you have in D-Movie mode are EV, Aperture and Picture Control. at the moment, nothing else is manual.

Let me know if I'm forgetting something guys.
 
Kohli, It looks like in your video the darker it get the jerky the footage get which is consistent with my results. Also, I have my exposure compensation set to 1/3 increments.
 
If you can figure out that a -3 is close to a 1/50th shutter, and that doesn't change during shooting, then the only other variable that cannot be controlled during shooting is ISO? If this is already set will it change automatically no matter what during shooting?
 
andersonnd said:
DSLR-killer...

That's what Jannard and Co. are calling their proposed DSMC (Digital Still & Motion Camera).http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18710

It would seem that the gap between DSxx cameras and motion picture makers is being bridged by a number of companies, and I'd like to think that this will only keep things moving more and more quickly toward "the end".
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Got to love red... but an announcement like this, when we know they weren't planning on developing this - especially with Epic and Scarlet coming out, makes them seem kinda bitchy.
 
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