The end of 35mm adapers and hv20s....

Zak Forsman said:
no. audio doesn't have a framerate.
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cool. thanks zak.

well, my wife is a photographer (shoots nikon, tons of awesome lenses) and has been in the market for a new backup dslr to her d300. and i was literally going to buy a brevis 35 for my hvx yesterday, just before i heard this.

ok, no, this is no hvx by any means, but for a fraction of the price of a new dslr, brevis and glass for the hvx (wife's lenses lock down the aperature when not on a camera so i need new manual lenses) i can get a good mix of all of this, use her lenses, and have $ for that long list of other items i need.

sweet. :beer:
 
Hey Zak,

That footage that was posted isn't actually Nikon D90 footage. I believe the person that made that clip said that it was RED downsampled to the bitrate of the D90 footage and downsized to 720p as well as transcoded into motion jpeg. This was all done to test out how motion jpeg codec held up and how it looked.

Laters,
Ando
 
I was going to bid on a used Brevis until I saw this a day ago. Not perfect the N90 is, ( nor are working with GG, focus screens and adapters either ) however it's a large cmos 12.1MP frame , no light loss, no Vignetting, no Hotspots and use from 10.5mm lens to a 1000mm+ without compromise you get with using 35mm adapters.

The key thing to remember, the N90 is just the beginning. Much more to come.. Nikon is going to sell even more lenses now.

side note:
As for audio a Zoom H4 4-track recorder for a couple hundred bucks and you have excellent production audio to work with is one of many options.
 
andoguru said:
Hey Zak,

That footage that was posted isn't actually Nikon D90 footage. I believe the person that made that clip said that it was RED downsampled to the bitrate of the D90 footage and downsized to 720p as well as transcoded into motion jpeg. This was all done to test out how motion jpeg codec held up and how it looked.

Laters,
Ando
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You are looking at the wrong clip. On the site they added another clip, the "D90_orig.avi" clip . Take another look.
 
>As for audio a Zoom H4 4-track recorder for a couple hundred bucks
>and you have excellent production audio to work with is one of many options.

Or perhaps the DVX I have in my closet gathering dust for the last 6 months...
 
PappasArts said:
Here is an original D90 full res avi clip posted by a guy on a red forum.

http://finalpass.net/videos/MJPEG_test/

http://www.scarletuser.com/showpost.php?p=17460&postcount=77
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Is this really a full res original straight out of the D90? To be honest I didn't find the quality that great. I've watched it on my pc monitor and on a 46' Full HD tv and I was not very impressed. I'm talking image quality here, not technique or anything like it. Anyway, it's like we've all been saying the entire day, it's the beginning of something that could be revolutionary. Tough break for adapters manufacturers though.
 
<< it's like we've all been saying the entire day, it's the beginning of something that could be revolutionary. Tough break for adapters manufacturers though.>>>


Totally agree, and the DSLR market is rapid changing so improvements are sure to come sooner from Nikon and compition, especially as they get more user feed back . Yeah it sucks for the adapters guys, however it was always a DIY projects fine tuned taken to a niche market that time was marked. Just started sooner than I thought it was going to happen. However a good thing.

We'll see better footage as the right people get their hands on it.
 
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Million Dollar question. Will Convergent Design box be able to record HDMI from the camera? Is the HDMI signal an uncompressed signal or current low bitrate JPEG? If both can mate, what are the monitor out options as most monitors don't have HDMI loop through.

Can you hear me Convergent Design? HDMI loop through is your homework assignment for September.

Now that would be cool. D90, Redrock Mattbox, Follow Focus and CD box all attached to a decent set of rails. A real Franken Camera.
 
Tim Naylor said:
Million Dollar question. Will Convergent Design box be able to record HDMI from the camera? Is the HDMI signal an uncompressed signal or current low bitrate JPEG? If both can mate, what are the monitor out options as most monitors don't have HDMI loop through.

Can you hear me Convergent Design? HDMI loop through is your homework assignment for September.

Now that would be cool. D90, Redrock Mattbox, Follow Focus and CD box all attached to a decent set of rails. A real Franken Camera.
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I don't think the D90 can output over HDMI at a constant 24fps and with the UI overlay turned off. However, it does support 720p and 1080i output over HDMI, just with the UI overlay as well.

It won't have anything to do with MJPEG unless you're playing back an MJPEG clip. The pure live view will not be compressed except for whatever compression occurs for transmission over HDMI but you still can't get rid of the overlay.
 
I'm curious, does the mechanical shutter fire when recording video or does it operate through an electronic shutter? I ask because 100,000 shutter cycles is barely enough for 60 minutes of video.


Marco
 
PappasArts said:
Just found this demo filmed using the Nikon N90. It's a small info piece on a female horse rider.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd94II6EO6s


It appears that we can do some form of under-crank or time-lapse filming. Anyhow, enjoy!

Love the use of the ultra wide lenses. Without compromise..... :)
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I've seen this clip before on Nikons website (flash encoded). They are shooting video... but in one of the smaller modes. NOT HD. Notice how it looks like sh*t on youtube. The photos and video should both downrez to the same resolution when on youtube. I have a feeling they shot that video with the smaller then SD resolution option.

Like I've said, the persons responsible for shooting the demo/test footage for Nikon really screwed the pooch. Most of it looks bad. I bet DVXusers will blow that footy out of the water after 1 day with the camera.

Mark my words, who wants to start the pool?

marco0782 said:
I'm curious, does the mechanical shutter fire when recording video or does it operate through an electronic shutter? I ask because 100,000 shutter cycles is barely enough for 60 minutes of video.


Marco
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Willing to bet it's electric. Only makes sense.
 
Also, I am concerned about rolling shutter issues since it uses CMOS. Can anyone shed light on this?


Marco
 
Go back a couple of pages, I've been worried about this as well. I'm going to tell you right now, it will be present. How bad? That is yet to be tested.

It's CMOS, it's a big chip, and it's not global.

Take a look at the bicycling clip where the guy goes from screen right to screen left. Look at the rails behind him. As soon as the camera stops panning, I can physically see the bars even out a little. Nothing I would necessarily have noticed if not looking.
 
Ryan Patrick O'Hara said:
Go back a couple of pages, I've been worried about this as well. I'm going to tell you right now, it will be present. How bad? That is yet to be tested.

It's CMOS, it's a big chip, and it's not global.

Take a look at the bicycling clip where the guy goes from screen right to screen left. Look at the rails behind him. As soon as the camera stops panning, I can physically see the bars even out a little. Nothing I would necessarily have noticed if not looking.
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watch now, it looks much better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd94II6EO6s&fmt=18
 
DM_rider said:
watch now, it looks much better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd94II6EO6s&fmt=18
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Horse link again!?

First of all, I don't think that footage was shot in HD mode. Just because I've seen it on the nikon website, and it looked low res.

Second, if you are referring to 'better' as meaning no signs of wobble. That horse video really didn't have the type of camera work (pans with straight adjacent elements) to judge from.
 
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