And you watched the whole seven minutes?
Reminds of the line in Annie Hall:
"Not only was the food bad, but the portions were small."
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HMC150 questions answered...
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BobDiaz
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Low light, as in "can you make sucky footage in too-dark conditions"? That kind of goes against everything I stand for.But the next footage I post will have proper exposure and tons of black/dark areas... no gain though, I'm an anti-gain fanatic...
Well, if I wanted to see bad footage, I'll play the VideoMaker clip. There's no information on what they did, but I'll bet it was +18dB of gain to get that high a noise level....
I was thinking the kind of shot of indoors or outdoors at night with a reasonable level of light. I'm sure that some users (Bob Diaz for one) are thinking about using this camera to shoot weddings and would like to see how it looks with normal room or street lighting at night.
For those who are into "let's record bad footage video", just set the gain to +18dB, use 1080/60i, and record at 6 Mbps with the sharpness set to maximum AND color set to over saturate. I'm sure that there are other additional settings that could be used for bad footage... :thumbsup:
Bob Diaz
BobDiaz
The Professor
From the link:
I had a bit of a laugh, because the footage is crunched so badly by YouTube, it's impossible to be sure of anything.
Bob Diaz
I tried opening files listed below in Vegas 8.0b with the following library (beta from Sony's website): Name: m2tsplug.dll Folder: C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 8.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\m2tsplug Format: Sony M2TS Version: Version 1.0 (Build 1236) Company: Sony Creative Software Inc.
All 23p files worked fine, both 720 and 1080, I could put them on timeline and slice and dice and edit away, but out of all 59p files only 00013.MTS worked well. All other 59p files can be previewed, but when I drag them to timeline, Vegas crashes. On the other hand, CoreAVC codec plays all files without problems.
I also noticed heavy aliases on the edges in 1080p video, but almost none on 720p video. Seems that Barry is right, this is first and foremost a 720p camera.
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grey-apple
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somebody know the date of distribution in europe (PAL version)?
We use FC Studio 2 with the latest v6 updated on a MacPro quad core and since I don't edit on that machine (yet) all I can say my observation was as you indicate, ProRes and took about the same time it would have taken to ingest a tape or maybe slightly longer?
Can't comment on the former part of your querry but if no one else responds I can get an editor to provide the workflow they came up with and the conclusions they found if you would like. We are comparing these clips both Videomaker and Barry's clips to clips we have that are similiar in conditions (lighting and environment - i.e. outdoor marina -we have a bunch of this- biking in outdoors medium light under folage, etc.) so that we can see the advantages and disadvantages for our operations as we have to buy at least three more HD cameras and be proficient with their respective use by Nov/Dec before launching our "Total HD" unit in January for the bridal shows.
I'm running voltaic on a ppc g5 quad. i was able to transcode the clips but I think the voltaic conversion may introduce artifacting that may not have been there.
that sucks the whole point of converting isn't to introduce more problems it just to convert into usable format and not loose quality argh this is frustrating I may have to hold on on this cam if I can't get the quality out of it you know. Or buy the cam and a ne 24" imac dual 3.06ghz intels
......just a thought you only live once right.:beer:Barry_Green
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Same.
Barry_Green
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720/60 makes for an ideal downconversion to 480/60i.
Barry_Green
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Or just buy editing software that doesn't force you to convert. :engel017:that sucks the whole point of converting isn't to introduce more problems it just to convert into usable format and not loose quality argh this is frustrating I may have to hold on on this cam if I can't get the quality out of it you know. Or buy the cam and a ne 24" imac dual 3.06ghz intels
"Can't comment on the former part of your querry but if no one else responds I can get an editor to provide the workflow they came up with and the conclusions they found if you would like."
Yes that would be great. I don't edit but most of the editors I work with use final cut and mostly work with tape. If I get the HMC 150 I want to make sure in advance they can handle the footage and not hose them.
Yes that would be great. I don't edit but most of the editors I work with use final cut and mostly work with tape. If I get the HMC 150 I want to make sure in advance they can handle the footage and not hose them.
Ya but everyone keeps saying I need intel mac and FCP6.0.1 !!!! I run a PowerPC mac right now real bummer if this is so.... I am just worried about the converting seeing as how their have been such poor result of conversions on the mac end from what I have read... I guess I will just have to be patient until a solid workflow for a PowerPC mac is though off. I am still interested in the fact that the AVC-intra plug-in works on FCP6.0 to log and capture the footage..
that sucks the whole point of converting isn't to introduce more problems it just to convert into usable format and not loose quality argh this is frustrating I may have to hold on on this cam if I can't get the quality out of it you know. Or buy the cam and a ne 24" imac dual 3.06ghz intels
It would be _much_ cheaper to install Boot Camp/Windows XP + EDIUS Neo. I don't relish the thought of running windows but I probably will try out this workflow UNLESS FCP steps up within a few weeks with an update.
I have confirmation from my supplier that my HMC150 will be arriving within two weeks, swEEEEET! ("our Panasonic rep is here today and I just got done speaking with him and he confirmed we should be seeing your order within 2 weeks.")
Have asked our editor to procedurize the process and she'll do it on Tuesday when she gets in or email it to me (our editors are off Friday through Sunday.
Here's an interesting site on this whole AVCHD thing with several posts about editing it:
http://www.brianshoff.com/tech/one-solution-for-editing-avchd.htm
According to our editor she was able to get a viewable AVCHD somehow before ingesting the material into FC. I appologize in advance that I don't have the solution in my pocket but I edit about 5 to 10% of what we do and have personally never used FC (since the G5 days and before the suite's) as we just added Mac's and Apple software in the last 60 days because of how our market is changing here (one of the Comcast groups we work with just switched to Apple/FCP this spring) plus BOTH our versions of Avid being dropped from the Avid line up (Liquid & Xpress Pro)
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