HPX170 First Look

Greetings,

This is my first post to the forum.
Many thanks for such a great heads up article Barry - very much looking forward to the in-depth report, and to getting my hands on the camera at the Cine Gear Expo in LA this month.

I just stumbled across a listing for the HPX170 on the EAR.net website claiming the camera has a list price of $5,995 and offering it at a discount price of $5,195.00
and stating it comes with a 16GB P2 card included.

I didn't think this information had been confirmed yet.

http://www.ear.net/cgi-bin/estatusp?p=1&mode=stp&q=PAN-AGHPX170

hmm.
taking this with a pinch of salt.
 
That would be great if it was that price through a Pany authorized dealer (not sure if EAR is or not).

Would love a price around that with a free 16gb card.

Does not look like the 64gb cards will be ready at the same time as the 170 - any thoughts on the 64gb cards?
 
EX1 sharpness

EX1 sharpness

Barry_Green said:
Lessen the NEED? Yes. Lessen the desire? No.

The EX1 will maintain its edge in sharpness. But the 170 even widens the gap in price difference, it should probably street at $1500 to $1800 less than the EX1.
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The Ex1's sharpness goes away if you move the camera any faster than a slow creep. Then it turns into a mushy consumer-grade image.

---Mark
 
lcd monitor

lcd monitor

The better LCD is a big issue. The lesser LCD makes me not want to buy Panasonic.

--Mark


Duol said:
Hello Jan,

Yes, 3 focus assist tools is very cool but for me not replace a good lcd or a good viewfinder, i use the focus assist of the hpx500 and i don't like it.

And Autofocus on the hvx200 is also very slow !

The sony ex1, the sony Z7, the canon XH-A1 have a good lcd why not the hpx170 ?

The P in hpx170 is for professional, no ?

I think many users are ready to pay a lot more for a camera that you can focus easily, focus directly with their eyes and not with gadgets, for me it's a waste of time.

I know the limitation of hdv and I like dvcpro HD but for me a good lcd or viewfinder is very more important than the weight, the frame rate button, the lcd flip...

But yes, probably, it would cost more to change the lcd for Panasonic, it's probably a question of marketting !

I just know that i will not pay for a hpx170 if the quality of the lcd or the viewfinder isn't enought good and i'm not alone in this case.
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p2 vs. SxS cards

p2 vs. SxS cards

P2 is an odd choice. It's a dead format and will require an odd-ball adapter for use with standard equipment. The only hope is that the new flash media (i.e. samsung's recently announced 256 gig flash drive) will replace it in the near future.



Joe Lawry said:
Agh,, posts like these are painful.




Yes they can fit in macbook pros, but p2 cards can still fit in a hell of a lot of the new PC's and almost all old PCs and Macs.
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mcbaldwin said:
The Ex1's sharpness goes away if you move the camera any faster than a slow creep. Then it turns into a mushy consumer-grade image.

---Mark
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I took the opportunity to use an EX1 today, and this comment is just plain wrong. The EX1's sharpness does not go away, and it certainly isn't consumer. If so I'd like to know which consumer camera you've been using sir!

The EX1 records an excellent image, as will the forthcoming HPX170. I just wish that Panasonic would have exceeded the resolution and added a better LCD. The LCD on the EX1 is the best LCD I've ever seen on a prosumer camera, ever.

If you're going to knock the EX1, do it properly. Ergonimically, it's terrible.
 
The LCD is fine on the EX1. True. But I've used it enough to say I'll never use it again. I really don't like the image quality.
 
Will the HPX170 be shipping with another awsome book or dvd " HPX170 sweetness at your fingertips",by yours truly Barry Green ?
 
Aerialsfilm M* said:
The LCD is fine on the EX1. True. But I've used it enough to say I'll never use it again. I really don't like the image quality.
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Well I have now purchased an EX1, and after fiddling with picture profiles and switching detail off, the image just gets better. I'm having to push the camera hard to get any jellycam (I'm in the UK where it's jelly rather than jello). I'm actually amazed that long GOP can look as good as this, though now I need to get out there and shoot something proper rather than flowers and the obligatory test footage.

What is tough about the EX1 is the initial learning curve. It's not as intuitive as the HVX200 (which I also have), but once it's second nature there's no problem. It's taken me a full afternoon to get my head around it.
 
Okay, comment: I'm going to update the book to include everything new on the HPX170.

As to when that'll be done, or whether it'll be included, for those questions I have no comment. :engel017:
 
I'm sorry, I know the answer is in here somewhere. But what's the low-down on when the image in the LCD screen can be flipped or not - depending on the resolution mode your shooting in?

And can you flip the "monitor out" signal?

thank you
 
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