do you guys want butter? super smooth slow motion

looks awesome mack films


and for evrybody having trouble im doing it step by step and taking screen shots so it will be up shortly
 
junno1616 said:
is there another way to get it into cinema tools....cause I captured it into FCP like you listed but I open cinema tools and go to file, open clip, but the clips I imported into FCP aren't options to open so i had to put the clip into the FCP timeline, which I set to 23.98, and exported as quicktime. Now I have a quicktime clip set at 23.98 and I opened it into Cinema tools but it doesn't make sense to conform an already 23.98 clip into a 23.98 clip........ So I'm guessing I'm doing it wrong....... so what's the best way to use cinema tools? In your description of the steps you said "nest inport......" Was that for real or was it a typo meaning "next inport....."
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yeah sorry nest import is a typo

all you have to do once your clips have been imported is get out of final cut and open up cinema tools go to file then open then documents then final cut pro documents then capture scratch and fins the clip in there thats why its handy to name the clip something you will remember and select that clip in cinema tools and conform to 23.98 then you should be able to put it in your timeline fine and you should be able to view it without rendering then you can continue the other steps
 
Is there a reason as to why you must change the 60i clicp to 23.98 and edit on a 23.98 timeline?

Could you skip this step if you planned on working in a 29.97 timeline? Or is it just part of the recipe to do this in 23.98?
 
Has anyone tried this with After Effects? I'd love to give it a shot, but I'm not using FCP, and I'm not familiar enough with the technical details to figure it out with AE...
 
When I had a DVX I was using it with premiere pro. I just shot at 60i and dropped that footage into my 24p timeline and slowed it to 60%. Worked perfectly. Was originally covered in Barry Greens DVX book.
 
Noel Evans said:
When I had a DVX I was using it with premiere pro. I just shot at 60i and dropped that footage into my 24p timeline and slowed it to 60%. Worked perfectly. Was originally covered in Barry Greens DVX book.
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yeah this way does work fine but it has alot of ghosting and interlacing problems i've found this technique to work alot better for me and it is also a tad slower than 60%
 
I really appreciate you posting this technique, but i have a question about synching audio playback (like a music video) using this technique, there are two conversions. converting 60i into 24p (unknown percentage of conversion) and then slowing it again by 50% to get the final slow motion. So if I was to try and synch a song to the final speed, I would need to first speed the song up by a rate equivalent to the 60i to 24p (anyone know this percentage rate?) conversion, and then again by 200%. has anyone tried this? any tips? anyone know the conversion rate of 60i by 24p as a percentage ?
 
no need to shoot at 1/2000 shutter unless you like that fast strobing look. standard shutter will produce slow motion just the same...
 
Noel Evans said:
When I had a DVX I was using it with premiere pro. I just shot at 60i and dropped that footage into my 24p timeline and slowed it to 60%. Worked perfectly. Was originally covered in Barry Greens DVX book.
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that should be 40%, not 60%. and simply slowing down this way negates the point of shooting 60i to begin with. fcp will throw out the extra frames you actually shot and replace them with crappy interpolated frames.

to do this right, you must deinterlace your 60i clips and split the individual fields into full frames (JES deinterlacer works great for this), then conform the clip to 23.98 in cinema tools, then drop onto a 23.98 timeline and voila!!! it plays at 40% super smooth slow motion with no retiming necessary.

or you can just buy an hvx and do it all in cam :-)
 
corpsington said:
I really appreciate you posting this technique, but i have a question about synching audio playback (like a music video) using this technique, there are two conversions. converting 60i into 24p (unknown percentage of conversion) and then slowing it again by 50% to get the final slow motion. So if I was to try and synch a song to the final speed, I would need to first speed the song up by a rate equivalent to the 60i to 24p (anyone know this percentage rate?) conversion, and then again by 200%. has anyone tried this? any tips? anyone know the conversion rate of 60i by 24p as a percentage ?
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are you talking about the effect when the talent is singing in slow motion but they are lip syncing perfectly with the music?

this is rather difficult with the dvx because it does not have true variable frame rates besides 24p and 30p
 
Will this work if you are editing a film on a 29.97 timeline? And if so, are their additional steps?
 
TadM said:
Will this work if you are editing a film on a 29.97 timeline? And if so, are their additional steps?
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yes this does work on a 29.97 timeline for some reason my footage does not come out as smooth when doing this and there are no additional steps its just one less step you dont have to conform the video to 23.98 so just drop it in the timeline and start de-interlacing and all that magic

i have an example of what it look like on a 29.97 timeline and a 23.98 the first is 29.97

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbiu7UYn29g

here is the 23.98 two videos wit the same technique:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSNdCVf8qBk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6HmhqwLbrk
 
Europe PAL

Europe PAL

I'm trying some slow motion with my Europe-PAL configuration but somehow I just can't reach a smooth sharp movement... Any ideas on how should this be done in PAL?????
Thanks
 
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