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Beat Takeshi said:
Well... they said it doesn't fit Timefest. The whole thing was about she had to make a quick life or death decision to break a long time promise to their mother in order to save her sisters life. To everyone that worked on the film that was clear as day. They said it didn't feel like it was made for time fest and should just be in the user films section and that I didn't have a shout out to DVXuser in credits.
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That sucks but you do have to follow their rules. Post a new thread in the user films section so we can all take a look! I really want to see it. Sorry about the non exhibition status.

Mike
 
ahh man.. bummmmmmer...

I was wondering where the watch was in the film. Maybe if you had a clock ticking down sound that would make it seem more urgent... Which, I'm wondering how many of these films will have that tick tock sound.

Damn. again man, bummer. :(

/j
 
Actually, I don't recall a final decision being made about this. I do recall you being approached and made aware of what we were (not) seeing, and asking for you to clarify.

I wish your explanation via pm was not so half baked... woulda helped :) Heck, even your vague explanation here in this thread (for need of not wanting to give away the story to those who haven't seen it, I'm sure) makes the case a lot better and lets us see where you are coming from a heck of a lot better than what you said via pm. You should be able to state the theme of your film precisely. It doesn't help us to make a decision when you say "well, it's the whole thing at the end where she...." Make sense? I'm not saying this with harsh tone by the way, if it's coming across that way. Just saying that when we asked you to clarify for us, and you didn't give us a strong response, it didn't exactly bode well.

The reason why we approached you privately and stated our feelings and asked you to clarify was to avoid this public silliness of people forming opinions when they don't know what's going on, but ah well....

Anyways... after hearing what you have said in this thread, we were able to put the pieces together and see where you were trying to come from... what your intentions were for the theme. Next time, might be helpful if you can give us a well-thought response when we request it, rather than a vague one and then making a decision final in public even when no decision had been made yet...

So, yes... this film will be included in the fest as exhibition.

And, to be clear to everyone, the content of this film had nothing to do with the discussion about whether or not it should be included. That's just people forming opinions. What we did see was confusion about whether or not this adhered or attempted to adhere to the theme of the fest. While exhibition only films have been welcomed in the past, they have always adhered to at least the theme of the fest and were generally not competing entries b/c of time or some other technicality.

Here we have a film that did not have the required element, did not have the dvxuser nod, and was nearly twice as long as the alloted runtime... The kicker was that we didn't see the theme coming through and that is why we requested your explanation of theme. But, that last part is best saved for a response to your film once viewing has opened :)

HOpe that clears things up a bit for everyone.

Later,
Jason
 
Hey Jason, sorry about that. I was actually running out the door to my daughters graduation and literally brushing my teeth as I was trying to type. I may not have caught that it was still up in the air about being excepted. Again sorry about that. After reading Barry's PM just now I sent him a detailed one back clarifying what our intentions where. I actually don't remember what I wrote back to you this morning but I will check my sent box. I wrote back to Barry that if we need to fix anything to help us out we will. The DVXuser nod can be added like I added the last minute credits. I just made a quicktime of the credits real quick and then opened my finished render and dragged the credits into it which adds it to the end of the movie and then do a save. This effectively adds the credits without having to re-render. I can do the same with a DVXuser nod.
 
Nice short man.

Lighting was very nice and the story was good.

Acting was good too. I liked the ending.

Audio levels were clipping during the screams which was a little distracting but other than than great job.
 
Thanks. Yeah, the mics couldn't handle her even though we made sure everything was turned down. Thats the downfall of lav mics. I was thinking of ADRing that part and when he yells to clean it up. Well, i was thinking of ADRing the whole thing.
 
Wonderful film. Visually, it looked fantastic. Strong performances. Good story with a great reveal at the end.

My only complaint (a small one), I wish we hadn't seen the younger sister smile after the gun is pulled out.

Very well done.
 
Loved this one!

SPOILER!!

Totally didn't see the ending coming. I think you could have toned down the cursing (for one it wasn't too believable at points when the younger sister rattled off a few), I know you could have trimmed this one down to fit the 6 min. Cinematography was awesome. I found myself inside the story! Good job Sir!

Rogan
 
Aram,

you are a great storyteller my friend. I really loved the pacing of this and the arc of the story played out nicely. You really got amazing performances from the 2 leads, very well grounded in the moment. The shots were really cinematic in the second half (loved the blood flowing) and the music worked extremely well. I really liked how the younger sister walked into shadow before the tone changed. Hetch did a great job dp-ing. He has some skills when he is not seathing.

Real nice use of camera speeds to build the drama and the twist at the end was done subtly where most would look to go over the top. You know your in good hands when the filmmaker uses that kind of restraint.

2 things: you could lose the opening sequence between the 2 guys in the truck, you mentioned that yesterday so no news there. I also liked the color grading in the second half better and would have that all the way through. You love that warm filter, and I know you are changing the cc to go with the change in mood, but the desat works better for the entire piece IMO.

Great work man. I really look forward to more collaborations between us in the future.

Jim
 
Chris Messineo said:
Wonderful film. Visually, it looked fantastic. Strong performances. Good story with a great reveal at the end.

My only complaint (a small one), I wish we hadn't seen the younger sister smile after the gun is pulled out.

Very well done.
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That scene was debated on because it may give away too much. I imagined it like an anime shot but yeah, it may be over kill. Glad you liked it Chris, I really respect what you have to say and any critiques you may give.

Dustin R. Rogan said:
Loved this one!

SPOILER!!

Totally didn't see the ending coming. I think you could have toned down the cursing (for one it wasn't too believable at points when the younger sister rattled off a few), I know you could have trimmed this one down to fit the 6 min. Cinematography was awesome. I found myself inside the story! Good job Sir!

Rogan
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Thank you much sir. Yes, tons of cursing but its who she is. A street rat basically...that apparently reads.. :) But I wanted to keep it urban and true to NY where I see people like this everyday. I could definitely see a sister rattling off like that to get under her sister or brothers skin. When it comes to sibling rivalry anything goes sometimes.

bosindy said:
Aram,

you are a great storyteller my friend. I really loved the pacing of this and the arc of the story played out nicely. You really got amazing performances from the 2 leads, very well grounded in the moment. The shots were really cinematic in the second half (loved the blood flowing) and the music worked extremely well. I really liked how the younger sister walked into shadow before the tone changed. Hetch did a great job dp-ing. He has some skills when he is not seathing.

Real nice use of camera speeds to build the drama and the twist at the end was done subtly where most would look to go over the top. You know your in good hands when the filmmaker uses that kind of restraint.

2 things: you could lose the opening sequence between the 2 guys in the truck, you mentioned that yesterday so no news there. I also liked the color grading in the second half better and would have that all the way through. You love that warm filter, and I know you are changing the cc to go with the change in mood, but the desat works better for the entire piece IMO.

Great work man. I really look forward to more collaborations between us in the future.

Jim
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Hey Jim, great talking to you last night. Thanks. The two guys will make more sense in the next installment of this story. I really thought hard about the characters this time around and glad its standing out to everyone so far. I paid attention to foreshadowing, arch, climax and anti-climax (but the edit changed that particular detail) and have little layers to hopefully make people go back to watch for them once they see the ending and say oh thats why this or that was said.

Good lcuk with your film also. It sounds like a winner.
 
Beat Takeshi said:
Hey Jim, great talking to you last night. Thanks. The two guys will make more sense in the next installment of this story. I really thought hard about the characters this time around and glad its standing out to everyone so far. I paid attention to foreshadowing, arch, climax and anti-climax (but the edit changed that particular detail) and have little layers to hopefully make people go back to watch for them once they see the ending and say oh thats why this or that was said.

Good lcuk with your film also. It sounds like a winner.
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SPOILER: I was wondering about that, since these guys seem so unredeemable they would keep your heroine likable if she "cut her teeth" on them. Is the other stuff shot or is that planned for down the road?
 
I way more than liked it. It was truly great. Your directing skills are top notch and you clearly assembled a fantastic team (probably the most important job for the indie filmmaker).

Congratulations on a wonderful film.

p.s. I'll be calling you soon with some news on LtP.
 
Thanks alot guys. You guys made my day. I respect each of your opinions and am happy to hear positive reviews (or neg. ones). This short was especially challenging for Aram and I. We've worked alot together, but this project in particular was plagued with everything from Aram's emergency surgery to busted locations to extremely tight shooting schedules and limited lighting capability. Aram and I were talking yesterday about how much time you spend on your own work that you cant tell if youre doing things right or youre drinking your own koolaid.

I wouldnt mind seeing how the whole piece plays out in cool desat. Rachels eclipse behind her sister played out well in our conversations but besides giving away alot in the story I think the shot turned out to be awkward because of the height difference of the girls. Rachel is simply alot shorter so the composition wasnt as strong as I think we envisioned it. I guess we could cheat the height but then it wouldnt make sense.

I was joking with Aram about uploading a version with a "F@CK" counter in the upper right hand corner of the screen.

Aram kicked ass directing this, and how bout that cast? Great people to work with. Jim, no seething today!
 
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Yes, it came out 100 times better because of the cast I think and also that Mike was able to keep track of things I was missing. Its funny how a shot sounds good in ear but doesn't look the same. From a famous line one of our kids said in our Kids show pilot..."Man...it looked much cooler in my head"
LOL, yeah wasn't sure about how much koolaid I was drinking.
The next joint will rock even more though because I won't put Mike through the mad man shooting shedule. And to think I was going to try to shoot it in one day. Not even...5 hours....Heh... I'm so used to working fast I really believed I could do it too. Lucky Mike stuck his foot up my ass and woke me up.
 
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