Wanted to know other videographers who shoot with DVX 100B. How do you handle low light scenes such as shooting the ceremony in the church when you can't use any lights. When you are allowed to use your lights what type of battery belt do you use. And how do you handle Miking the groom. I generally switch to input 2 for the Vows and the Rings. Do you do it differently? Just wanted to know any other gear that you might find useful. Such as Mono Pods ETC...
Wedding videographer's who use DVX 100B
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bilgami
Veteran
I dont use the 100b i use the dvc80 but i shoot weddings. in low lite i bump the gain to 6 or 12db if need be iris up. i have a vidled it works great plus lite kit for the dance floor and a interview section. in the church your at the mercy of what lite there is, but just iris up or gain up. for putting a mic on the groom i use ch1 and ch2 for shotgun mic to get nat sounds. i use my second cam with a wireless mic to get the podium. Tripods and monopods come in handy.
ps we need a wedding section.
ps we need a wedding section.
slimchrisp
Well-known member
that would be great. mods?
I USe the dvx for weddings. It does suck for low light, i just open it up as much as possible and deal with it....with a slight tweak to the brightness in post (which is rare) it looks fine.
To be honest, it handles the low light well enough, most churches are adequately lit to accomodate your cameras low light needs...if they're not ask the church folks to turn on more lights.
With the receptions it really sucks, i fight with the wedding planner all the time but usually win the battle of more light vs. less. If they ***** about it and want to dim the lights for that "romantic feel" snap back and tell them to ask the bride if she doesn't mind having her video look like shi t. More often than not they agree to do what I say, after all I am god.
For Audio, since I've been working for another company I'm usually given a mini-disc recorder/player to record the vows, it's not the greatest but for 30 seconds of audio who really cares.....it's good enough. Other times if its a lav system its jus recorded as 4-channel audio, which can be split in great programs like Scenelyzer...so no need to switch your audio for the vows.
Conclusion, the dvx100b does the job, and the low light isn't much of an issue if you know your camera and are well versed in post production techniques. My only warning is don't lower your shutter to 1/30th in order to allow more light it, keep it at 1/60 because if you want to do Slow-motion, footage shot at a shutter speed of 1/30 will end up being usless for that effect.
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To be honest, it handles the low light well enough, most churches are adequately lit to accomodate your cameras low light needs...if they're not ask the church folks to turn on more lights.
With the receptions it really sucks, i fight with the wedding planner all the time but usually win the battle of more light vs. less. If they ***** about it and want to dim the lights for that "romantic feel" snap back and tell them to ask the bride if she doesn't mind having her video look like shi t. More often than not they agree to do what I say, after all I am god.
For Audio, since I've been working for another company I'm usually given a mini-disc recorder/player to record the vows, it's not the greatest but for 30 seconds of audio who really cares.....it's good enough. Other times if its a lav system its jus recorded as 4-channel audio, which can be split in great programs like Scenelyzer...so no need to switch your audio for the vows.
Conclusion, the dvx100b does the job, and the low light isn't much of an issue if you know your camera and are well versed in post production techniques. My only warning is don't lower your shutter to 1/30th in order to allow more light it, keep it at 1/60 because if you want to do Slow-motion, footage shot at a shutter speed of 1/30 will end up being usless for that effect.
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bilgami
Veteran
Wedding videographer's who use DVX 100B
most churches are adequately lit to accomodate your cameras low light needs...if they're not ask the church folks to turn on more lights.
With the receptions it really sucks, i fight with the wedding planner all the time but usually win the battle of more light vs. less. If they ***** about it and want to dim the lights for that "romantic feel" snap back and tell them to ask the bride if she doesn't mind having her video look like shi t. More often than not they agree to do what I say, after all I am god.
Your biggest battles will be with the people who want the low lighting for the "romantic feel" your best bet is to be nice "so it dont get around town that your a jerk and wont hire you" and ask for better lighting if possible, if not you can always use the bride and video looking bad due to low lites card.
most churches are adequately lit to accomodate your cameras low light needs...if they're not ask the church folks to turn on more lights.
With the receptions it really sucks, i fight with the wedding planner all the time but usually win the battle of more light vs. less. If they ***** about it and want to dim the lights for that "romantic feel" snap back and tell them to ask the bride if she doesn't mind having her video look like shi t. More often than not they agree to do what I say, after all I am god.
Your biggest battles will be with the people who want the low lighting for the "romantic feel" your best bet is to be nice "so it dont get around town that your a jerk and wont hire you" and ask for better lighting if possible, if not you can always use the bride and video looking bad due to low lites card.
Thomas J. O'Hara
Senior Citizen
Shoot 24P!! It kills me when wedding videogs shoot 60i on their DVX. What's the point of having a DVX if you're not shooting 24p?? Get an XL-2 if you want 60i, those have longer lenses and are more suited for events anyways.
If it's dark where you're shooting, set the shutter to 1/24 and open up the iris all the way. This is usually good enough for me.
I try NOT to use the gain boost if possible, but if you have no lights and it's pitch black...you have no other choice but to boost up that gain!
If it's dark where you're shooting, set the shutter to 1/24 and open up the iris all the way. This is usually good enough for me.
I try NOT to use the gain boost if possible, but if you have no lights and it's pitch black...you have no other choice but to boost up that gain!
Thomas J. O'Hara
Senior Citizen
oh, and it would be nice to have a wedding/events section on here.
I've been hanging around videouniversity for wedding stuff, great community over there. But it would be cool to have our own wedding section just for us DVX'ers.
I've been hanging around videouniversity for wedding stuff, great community over there. But it would be cool to have our own wedding section just for us DVX'ers.
renegadewill
Well-known member
you mean get an xl1 if you are going to shoot 60i. xl2s have 24p.
Thomas J. O'Hara
Senior Citizen
ryan brown
lOwEr CaSe Member
It's the same 24P as the DVX... you can also shoot 24PA or 24PN. I shoot weddings, and I have one XL2 (for the awesome zoom), and a DVX.
Although... I NEVER shoot weddings in 24P. I shoot them in 30P.
EDIT: What was the deal with the second post by bilgami? was it supposed to be a quote or something??
Although... I NEVER shoot weddings in 24P. I shoot them in 30P.
EDIT: What was the deal with the second post by bilgami? was it supposed to be a quote or something??
slimchrisp
Well-known member
i do the wedding thing also, and this guy has given me some really great ideas: www.cinematicbride.com. check him out. i've found it almost impossible to find ace wedding video work, but this guy has skills.
but yeah, a section specifically for wedding work would be awesome.
but yeah, a section specifically for wedding work would be awesome.
chingatorz
New member
Panny DVX100A for weddings
Panny DVX100A for weddings
Hi there! I've been using my DVX100A for a couple of years now shooting weddings. I use it for the ceremony, and the details part of the shoot. For those scenes I shoot in 24P because there's almost no fast movement so the slower shutter speed helps with lower lighting in the church. For the reception I use a Sony PD-170 which gives cleaner video in lower lighting conditions. Using both cameras gives me the best of both worlds and leverages the individual strengths of each camera for specific parts of the coverage. Here is the rest of my gear;
2 Identical Bogen/Manfrotto fluid head tripods
1 Manfrotto dolly used with one of the tripods (mostly for the reception)
2 PAG C6 on-camera lights with batteries
Sennhiser wireless lav system receiver and transmitter (for the ceremony)
1 Sennhiser wireless handheld mic adapter (works w/ transmitter for interviews)
3 batteries each for the Sony and Panny (more than enough for a weekend)
Sony Wide angle adapter for the Sony PD-170
Sony wide angle adapter (72mm) for the Panny DVX100A - works really well!
Bracket 1 holder for the Sennhiser wireless transmitter
I think both cameras are perfect for wedding videos. The only thing lacking is the ability to do true 16X9. There are work arounds in-camera, framing, or post, but it is a pain and you loose resolution. But for SD video and DVD release this combination rocks!
Panny DVX100A for weddings
Hi there! I've been using my DVX100A for a couple of years now shooting weddings. I use it for the ceremony, and the details part of the shoot. For those scenes I shoot in 24P because there's almost no fast movement so the slower shutter speed helps with lower lighting in the church. For the reception I use a Sony PD-170 which gives cleaner video in lower lighting conditions. Using both cameras gives me the best of both worlds and leverages the individual strengths of each camera for specific parts of the coverage. Here is the rest of my gear;
2 Identical Bogen/Manfrotto fluid head tripods
1 Manfrotto dolly used with one of the tripods (mostly for the reception)
2 PAG C6 on-camera lights with batteries
Sennhiser wireless lav system receiver and transmitter (for the ceremony)
1 Sennhiser wireless handheld mic adapter (works w/ transmitter for interviews)
3 batteries each for the Sony and Panny (more than enough for a weekend)
Sony Wide angle adapter for the Sony PD-170
Sony wide angle adapter (72mm) for the Panny DVX100A - works really well!
Bracket 1 holder for the Sennhiser wireless transmitter
I think both cameras are perfect for wedding videos. The only thing lacking is the ability to do true 16X9. There are work arounds in-camera, framing, or post, but it is a pain and you loose resolution. But for SD video and DVD release this combination rocks!
Just happened onto this thread and wanted to drop in that we never use artificial lighting on camera; will only put an Arri up in a balcony or on the side positioned high and then only if absolutely necessary (twice in 5 years). Reason, on camera lighting makes people react suspicous, non relaxed, and always on guard. Too much on a dance floor will definately clear the floor in a heart beat. We had a nice pro lighting rig and sold it after only two gigs.
On the reception, just turning up the gain just a little or turn the house lights up a tad, the extra light is liked by most of the older folks at the reception and the extra light doen't have one eye ohtta affect on the dance crowd. The DJ will say it does but I've never seen it have an affect on a half drunk crowd. In fact, in a bar turn the house lights on full blast at closing time and you still have to run the people out
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Learn how to maximize your camera with shutter, gain, and cheating the gain with outdoor settings cuz it can have a really neat affect on the image and offers an FX quality. Our couples give us great recommendations and with the DVX100B's we have the best results to date.
Give me an HD camera that out performs the DVX100B in low light and you have a sale. Also, as a closing note, compose your shots with positioning, roll, house lighting affects, etc. I've been told by almost every DJ at weddings, "Wow, you get a work out man. Most videographers just get some shots and that's it." Angles often make the best video and when panned nicely and smoothly are awesome and even look dolly or jibbed. Get a good solid shouldler rig which was the first piece of equipment I purchased after my tripods. I got it on ebay for $22. I sell them now to other videographers for $50 plus shipping.
On the reception, just turning up the gain just a little or turn the house lights up a tad, the extra light is liked by most of the older folks at the reception and the extra light doen't have one eye ohtta affect on the dance crowd. The DJ will say it does but I've never seen it have an affect on a half drunk crowd. In fact, in a bar turn the house lights on full blast at closing time and you still have to run the people out
)Learn how to maximize your camera with shutter, gain, and cheating the gain with outdoor settings cuz it can have a really neat affect on the image and offers an FX quality. Our couples give us great recommendations and with the DVX100B's we have the best results to date.
Give me an HD camera that out performs the DVX100B in low light and you have a sale. Also, as a closing note, compose your shots with positioning, roll, house lighting affects, etc. I've been told by almost every DJ at weddings, "Wow, you get a work out man. Most videographers just get some shots and that's it." Angles often make the best video and when panned nicely and smoothly are awesome and even look dolly or jibbed. Get a good solid shouldler rig which was the first piece of equipment I purchased after my tripods. I got it on ebay for $22. I sell them now to other videographers for $50 plus shipping.
Actually I don't. But give me a week or so and i can. I have about four HOT projects due out like "now" and I'm struggling to get them done. Maybe I'll even do a vid with it. It's the slickest thing I've run into and it folds up and fits in a suitcase which is really nice.
IjabaFilms
Well-known member
I'm still waiting to see/buy one of these shoulder rigs....