Matrox MXO2 ! Now with Output and INPUT!!!

Nik Manning said:
Can you capture to a laptop in 720p24 ProRes? This shouldn't put to much stress on a newer macbook pro. Thanks
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ProRes on a laptop is not supported with the MXO 2. Unlike the AJA I/O HD, it does not have an on-board ProRes encoder. THe MXO 2 relies on the processor power of the computer to capture as ProRes, just like other capture cards. The MacBook Pros lack the processor power needed, so the best they can get is 8-bit uncompressed.

But the I/O HD is $3500, and the MXO 2 is $1600...so decide what you want and need and purchase accordingly.
 
MXO2 : ProRes to laptop or not ?

MXO2 : ProRes to laptop or not ?

Shane Ross said:
ProRes on a laptop is not supported with the MXO 2. Unlike the AJA I/O HD, it does not have an on-board ProRes encoder. THe MXO 2 relies on the processor power of the computer to capture as ProRes, just like other capture cards. The MacBook Pros lack the processor power needed, so the best they can get is 8-bit uncompressed.

But the I/O HD is $3500, and the MXO 2 is $1600...so decide what you want and need and purchase accordingly.
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Hi Shane,

Thanks for the input, I read this from you (here : http://lfhd.blogspot.com/) :

"you aren't going to get uncompressed on the laptop, but you can do ProRes"

From all the info I've gathered, HD uncompressed is obviously not possible, (where would you save the files considering the Express card slot is being used), but wouldn't a MacBook Pro be capable of ProRes encoding ?

Cheers,
Damien
 
Will the MXO2 be able to turn a macbook pro into a hi-quality monitoring solution using the laptop screen?... Apparently the first MXO had this capability.

Also there seems to be some conflicting info - If the MXO2 macbook pro cant capture ProRess or Uncompressed, what exactly will it be able to capture???
 
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No... it'll most likely do XDCAM and Uncompressed SD. I wouldn't be surprised if it were able to do SD ProRes or even 720 ProRes on the current MBP's. ProRes support (on MBP's) will grow as the MBP's become faster.

It's all speculation now as nobody outside Matrox has worked with it (and isn't under an NDA).

Mac Pro users, like myself, will be able to capture to pretty much whatever we want. The limitations are only for the current line of MBP's. The MXO2 especially looks good to me as I'll be getting a new laptop in the next year and I'll be able to add mobile capture options with this box (vs getting a Kona card).
 
Got another message from Matrox Forum.

We are glad to see the interest you have taken into the Matrox MXO and MXO2 products. The Matrox MXO2 is definitely a great broadcast-quality input/output affordable Mac mobile solution.

Just like LCD monitors, there will be different quality of HDMI televisions. The MXO2 has an HDMI monitor calibration; it lets you adjust your HDMI monitor exactly like you would a broadcast HD/SD monitor. The Cinema display does not support HDMI connectivity and therefore cannot be directly connected to the MXO2 without using a converter. Matrox will test different HDMI televisions and monitor and will provide a list of compatible devices.
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So i guess we will even have a list of "recommended" LCD TV Panels. That's great news.

Now what should I do if I need the device now? :/
 
Does anyone know if it will be possible to connect one ACD 30" or 23 inch to a MACBOOK PRO, and the MXO2 via expresscard for monitoring on an CRT at the same time?

This will be very usefull, don't know if the graphic card can sustain it...


Thanks
 
I went ahead and picked up the original MXO. Yesterday (first day with it), I hooked up my MBP, 24"lcd and SD Pany monitor all in real time. I know the 30" is not supported with the original MXO and MBP. It is DVI based or video signals through Component, Composite or S-Video. Worked pretty good.

Should have kept my SD monitor for color adjustment!

One of my goals was to output in real time interviews with the timecdoe filter to my DVD recorder. Now I can make TC DVD window dubs in SD from my HD timeline w/o any compression or render.
 
ENRICOX said:
Does anyone know if it will be possible to connect one ACD 30" or 23 inch to a MACBOOK PRO, and the MXO2 via expresscard for monitoring on an CRT at the same time?

This will be very usefull, don't know if the graphic card can sustain it...
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I'm sure it's fine. I doubt the video signal going into the MXO2 is coming from the GPU. It'd just be a data stream from FCP.
 
So I can use this as a monitoring solution
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Viewsonic NX2232W 22" 16:9 Wide HDTV LCD - 5ms, 1000:1, 1680x1050 (WSXGA+), ATSC, HDMI $339? If so $2,000 gets me a nice setup baby! Is a 720p monitor ok for monitoring 1080p?
 
Shane Ross said:
ProRes on a laptop is not supported with the MXO 2. Unlike the AJA I/O HD, it does not have an on-board ProRes encoder. THe MXO 2 relies on the processor power of the computer to capture as ProRes, just like other capture cards. The MacBook Pros lack the processor power needed, so the best they can get is 8-bit uncompressed.

But the I/O HD is $3500, and the MXO 2 is $1600...so decide what you want and need and purchase accordingly.
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Ok hopefully not supported doesn't mean it won't work it just means Matrox isn't guaranteeing it. ProRes wasn't suppose to work on G5 macs either but it does! :) 720p24 should be a lot easier on the processors than 1080p24. We shall find out. Even if it doesn't work this is still a great product Matrox is pushing. Last question, if apple makes new Laptops that are as fast as the Current Mac Pro Hardware would the MXO2 work then? I guess I am asking will the functionality of the card improve as processor speed improves. Thanks
 
They may be able to already, we don't know. Matrox may not claim ProRes support on the laptops now if the current MBP's can't handle the 1080p flavors. But I'm sure they can handle SD ProRes capture, so it's a bit of a gray area until somebody (like Shane) actually gets to use one and test it out.
 
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eduserrano said:
It's not on the products page, but they have announced a new G-Raid3 at NAB, did you know about that?

http://www.g-technology.com/News/pdf/G-Tech-NAB-2008.pdf

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Sorry, i just noticed you were referring the MINI one. :)
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Theres also a new G-raid mini3 shipping in june, Ive already bought the G-raid mini2 - Oh well... theres not much difference but I can always upgrade later while we wait for the Matrox MXO2.
 
Videoguys NAB2008 Report: Matrox


For me the star of the NAB2008 show was Matrox. At the dealer meeting on Sunday we felt that Matrox was introducing two new exciting products at NAB. Once I hit the show floor Monday morning and I saw the mob in their booth, it was clear that this was about more than just 2 new products. Matrox had arrived as a dual platform hardware vendor, delivering exciting new products for both PC and Mac users. With support for Apple and Adobe products, and who knows when, maybe even Avid!

Matrox MXO2

The MXO2 is a complete I/O solution for Apple and Adobe editors on the Mac platform for a fantastic price of just $1595!! You get SD and HD all in one sleek, sexy little package. MXO2 delivers all the I/O you need and want.

* You need SDI, you got it for both standard and HD with 8 tracks of embedded audio channels.
* If it’s analog I/O you need, MXO as it - component SD & HD plus all the standard SD I/O.
* What about HDMI you ask – MXO2 has it. Not just HDMI out, but HDMI input as well. Even cooler - the HDMI output includes surround sound!

How can they do it? Deliver all this I/O at such a great price? Only $1595!!Here’s the secret – they use the PCIe bus, which is 20x faster than FireWire400. It is also far more reliable and removes any bottlenecks that can occur from pushing HD footage in and out of your Mac via FireWire. The MXO2 ships with 2 PCIe adapters – one for towers and a card for your laptop. You can simply move the MXO2 between computers just by unplugging it in from one and plugging it into the other. Unlike other I/O devices on the market, MXO2 is truly portable. It’s sleek sexy form factor lets it fit in any laptop bag and it can run on AC or battery power.

MXO2 supports Apple applications like Final Cut Pro, Motion, and Color; as well as Adobe applications like Premiere Pro, After Effects, and the other apps included in the Adobe CS3 Production Premium. MXO2 supports multiple compressions and workflows including HDV, DVC Pro HD, uncompressed HD, XDCAM, and Apple Pro Res. With a quad core Mac you can capture into ProRes in real-time.

If your workflow demands input and output for multiple formats then MXO2 is the device for you. If you are working with tapeless workflows, or compressed HD formats that you can easily ingest via FireWire, then the original MXO is the device for you. Attach it to your Mac Tower or Laptop and you get pristine HD output - straight from Apple Final Cut Pro, Motion, Color or Adobe Premiere Pro, After Effects, Photoshop. Not all workflows require I/O. If you just need HD output, you can save some bucks by adding the MXO to you workflow. Rumor has it you may even be able to preview your Avid Media Composer timeline in the not so distant future with MXO!

The MXO2 is expected to ship in late June. We will begin taking pre-orders immediately. In fact we will be including a free gift with all pre-orders placed before June 15th.

http://www.videoguys.com/mxo2.html

gary
 
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