Ouch indeed.
But fixed lens is kinda disappointing.
No lens would be great.
If we all bleated long and hard maybe Jim would listen.
RED NAB NEWS THREAD: Scarlet pics are up
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If we all bleated long and hard maybe Jim would listen.
You need at least three of the expendables I.E Batteries and CF Cards. Two and you're gonna see downtime. Four of each is ideal, especially if you don't have a RED DRIVE (Which could actually be better than CF cards but you need both for Variable speeds).
You also forget storage (hard cases) in that equation along with other small tidbits that you'll need. It really is 25 - 27k and that's Optimistic. Everything else you rent.
I'd expect ANYONE investing this kind of money into a package like this to be working at all times, with clients lined up that can utilize the RAW data.
Don't forget a lens.
LuckyStudio 13
The Tapeless One
Agreed 100% thats why I cancelled my Red One reservation back in November.
Justyn
Veteran
With Red's history for hyping and then delaying and delaying, coupled with a crazy low price point-can't believe 3K-, makes this camera a reality in about 18 months. It's kind of like people who invite you to there wedding and tell everyone they are getting married, but it's 2 years away. Such a tease and rampant craziness will insue.. speculation and drama. I'm with Luis, i'm going back to sleep for atleast a year and will see what pops up then.
When renegade/independent companies start up there's under no authority, have no expectations to follow other than their own, and it leave's people with their cheese hanging in the wind.
Sure, I'm stoked about the idea but why focus all this time on something that doesn't amount to anything tangible now and could indeed have a rolling shutter or a painfully narrow lens or whatever. I've been having nightmares about the rolling shutter crap, so I don't want to compound this with dreams of the Scarlet. I'm setting my alarm and will wake up next year.. in about 18 months I'm thinking.
When renegade/independent companies start up there's under no authority, have no expectations to follow other than their own, and it leave's people with their cheese hanging in the wind.
Sure, I'm stoked about the idea but why focus all this time on something that doesn't amount to anything tangible now and could indeed have a rolling shutter or a painfully narrow lens or whatever. I've been having nightmares about the rolling shutter crap, so I don't want to compound this with dreams of the Scarlet. I'm setting my alarm and will wake up next year.. in about 18 months I'm thinking.
karapetkov
Well-known member
RENT
Very mature decision Justin... to say the least!
How old are you?People are still waiting for their Red Ones and now everyones gettin all hyped about the scarlet - Ill bet things turn out the same as last time (history tends to repeat)
Hey Kholi. That's pretty much our package. I've had my hands all over it. We're shooting. No problems.
You can power the camera with AC current through the Red charger too.
Note that a Red Drive means you don't even need CF cards. CF cards are super NICE. But NOT necessary.
And don't underestimate a single Nikkor 50mm 1.4, available for about $300.
It all depends on who you are. If you want to go on set with Soderberg, you need more. If you're an indie filmmaker, like most of us on here, you're good to go.
Plus there's rentals!
Maybe folks wont' be convinced until the first ultra-low-budget Red feature comes out, having been shot handheld with nothing but a single Nikon lens and a Red Drive.
heh, finally got red forums to load (****, it's still very slow) Didn't try to post - just reading.
Don't worry - the bleats have begun (about 55 posts so far, just about all asking for lens option) !!!
I'll head back later when it's quietened down a bit.
Luis Caffesse
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DChang
Well-known member
It's interesting to see what RED does & delivers, personally I enjoy reading about it because I can't wait to see how the competition reacts, it's them who I am keeping an eye out for. And sadly their rate of development & pricing is so slow that it often takes renegade/indie companies to bring out progress. If it wasnt for RED how long do you think it would have taken for 3k to reach you and at $3,000!?
TheMusician
Well-known member
Everybody needs to take a good hard look at what Red is offering - it is incredible! First, any pre-concieved notion that you might have had regarding Scarlet is your own fault - we were ONLY told that it would be a "professional pocket camera" and that is it.
Secondly, at the prices that have been hinted at, you are getting 3K RAW, which is better than ANYTHING that any camera from competitors is offering in this price range with unlimited image fidel-ability.
Thirdly, it is supposed to be a RED B camera. Did you think they would give you 3K with full 35mm DOF with interchangeable lenses at the prices that have been suggested? Who then would buy a RED One or Epic?!? They aren't dumb you know.
Fourth, even after adding a 35mm adapter it will be cheaper than an HPX500 or EX3 which you will also have to add an adapter to get good 35mm DOF - BUT YOU ALSO GET MORE RESOLUTION, IN A RAW FORMAT, AND SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER FRAME RATES! THIS IS INCREDDIBBBBLE!!!
SO QUIT YOUR CRYIN!... and enjoy the ride, cause now Sony and Panny are going to have to react, which is good for everyone.
Good Times!
Secondly, at the prices that have been hinted at, you are getting 3K RAW, which is better than ANYTHING that any camera from competitors is offering in this price range with unlimited image fidel-ability.
Thirdly, it is supposed to be a RED B camera. Did you think they would give you 3K with full 35mm DOF with interchangeable lenses at the prices that have been suggested? Who then would buy a RED One or Epic?!? They aren't dumb you know.
Fourth, even after adding a 35mm adapter it will be cheaper than an HPX500 or EX3 which you will also have to add an adapter to get good 35mm DOF - BUT YOU ALSO GET MORE RESOLUTION, IN A RAW FORMAT, AND SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER FRAME RATES! THIS IS INCREDDIBBBBLE!!!
SO QUIT YOUR CRYIN!... and enjoy the ride, cause now Sony and Panny are going to have to react, which is good for everyone.
Good Times!
Batutta
Major Contributor
As others have noted, wish it were a 35mm sensor, but 2/3" is nothing to sneeze at, and for the prices being rumored I'm guaranteed to buy one. Hope they include sound, and here's a idea...since it's WiFi capable why not just make an external wireless module with a few XLR inputs that sends audio wirelessly to the Scarlet? The boom operator could wear it on his hip instead of shlepping cable around.
Denis Haineault
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Justyn
Veteran
Very mature decision Justin... to say the least!
People are still waiting for their Red Ones and now everyones gettin all hyped about the scarlet - Ill bet things turn out the same as last time (history tends to repeat)
Well I'm 36 but sometimes according to the wife I'm 12 and when I'm sick, like I am today, I'm younger than my 5 year old son. I think things are great but talk about the stuff that people get so fervent about. Remember how people waited and waited for that cineporter that didn't get developed or what not. I actually held off today from buying the SD9 in hopes that Scarlet might be around the corner... LOL.. I'm going to bed..
cheers and this is good news but why speculate or pontificate as it maybe on something that won't be here for a good solid year at least. That's enough time for things to change a lot in my life and by then I might decide to pack it all in and hike the Appalacian Trail..
cheers all
Luis Caffesse
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While that's an interesting suggestion I don't know any sound guy that would prefer using a wireless rig to a wire one. Getting clean sound is hard enough as it is - no need to worry about transmisison issues on top of it.