RED NAB NEWS THREAD: Scarlet pics are up

sean90291 said:
The way I bet it works is you'd have to buy Red accessories. That's how it's gone with Red One. So the CAMERA BODY could be $3000. But you'd have to buy Red CF cards. Red cables. Red LCD. You can bet it's $3000 WITHOUT an LCD. And without a handle too. ;-)
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This is probably correct. I think everything is gonna be proprietary for the camera which forces the owner to purchase everything directly from RED. You'll need at least 3 CF cards, an LCD, your cables (the Lemo cables are very durable!) and the cage setup. You could easily be looking at 6k out the door for a complete ready-to-work package.

Which still isn't, in anyway, terrible.
 
sean90291 said:
The way I bet it works is you'd have to buy Red accessories. That's how it's gone with Red One. So the CAMERA BODY could be $3000. But you'd have to buy Red CF cards. Red cables. Red LCD. You can bet it's $3000 WITHOUT an LCD. And without a handle too. ;-)
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It comes with an LCD
 
sean90291 said:
It's soooo easy to add an in-camera look or curve. If that's the only thing that will hold back the Scarlet, it will be a simple MENU>LOOK>ON function.
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You'll have to educate me on that one. Can you add it and will it be applied to Proxies and the r3d files? You really have no idea how much that would help.

But, as far as I knew, it was only for the LCD's and not for the final footages. Am I wrong? Please say I am. LOL
 
cordvision said:
real pics http://www.redmodz.com/
not renderings
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NICE!!! This thing isn't tiny at all! And the RED LCD looks PERFECT on the unit.

And OH SNAP, it's setup for the 15mm Standard!!! Very hot. That means RED ROCK follow focuses, etc. Not to mention those who don't want to use pre-flipped adapters can probably really go upside down now with the RED cage method being employed here.

This thing is gonna look nasty built out with all the universal mounts.
 
I have a question about this framerate claim of 1-120 fps (180 fps burst)....

what exactly does this mean???

Over/under crank? Or just shooting at that framerate?
 
They list the LCD as part of the specs...
are we certain that means an LCD is included??
Seems too good to be true for "under $3K"
 
Luis Caffesse said:
They list the LCD as part of the specs...
are we certain that means an LCD is included??
Seems too good to be true for "under $3K"
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I'm with you. I can totally see the LCD actually being the existing RED LCD.

Because it's light weight, complies with the modular mentality and exists already. That sucker is like 1700.00. If that's gonna be the LCD then I really hope that they do something about the atrocious viewing angle.

It ain't none to pretty. Looks like I have Predator vision on if I step to the side at all.
 
If that price is true I might be picking up an HMC150 for events and a Scarlet for shorts and features.

We were going to roll camera on a feature this fall but I am willing to delay production to film on a 3K camera.
 
If the camera is $3,000. How much would say, the pictured accessories in the case cost? Would that pictured setup cost 10k or less you think?

This is a really big kick in the ass to all the other companies, a wake up call at the least.
 
It said it would use most of the stuff out for the Red One so just check out the Red store and price some stuff, would probably be twice as much with needed accessories but thats still a great price range
 
That setup pictured in the glass doesn't look like more than six-grand IF (Big IF) the body costs three. The LCD is 1700.00 (I think), the arm is about 100.00 and the rails, etc probably round out the rest.

What you don't see are CF Cards, batteries, etc etc. The stuff that makes it work.

I'd say it's somewhere around nine or ten grand if the body costs three.
 
Matthew R. Rodwell said:
We were going to roll camera on a feature this fall but I am willing to delay production to film on a 3K camera.
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If they're saying "Early 2009" my guess is we'll see Scarlet released at NAB 2009.
At that point you're looking at shooting summer/fall at the earliest.

There is always going to be something better coming along.
Personally, if I had a feature ready to go into production I'd go into production.
The time to shoot is when you're ready to shoot.... if you delay for the 'next big thing' you'll be delaying forever.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Matthew R. Rodwell said:
It comes with an LCD
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I wouldn't count on it. Just because the LCD is listed there, doesn't mean it's included in the price. We're obviously piecing things together from the first, frantic announcements. And the camera won't even be released for a year or more.

But the LCD pictured is the Red LCD, which costs like $1700. And a Red Arm which costs something like $300 or $400. It's hard to imagine those items would be included in the Scarlet's $3K price. Red is a modular camera company. They also want Red One owners to buy these things, and REd One owners will already have a Red LCD. So you'll just buy a new Scarlet camera body for $3K.

This is all guessing still. But the modular model is definitely how Red has structured their business model.
 
Luis Caffesse said:
If they're saying "Early 2009" my guess is we'll see Scarlet released at NAB 2009.
At that point you're looking at shooting summer/fall at the earliest.

There is always going to be something better coming along.
Personally, if I had a feature ready to go into production I'd go into production.
The time to shoot is when you're ready to shoot.... if you delay for the 'next big thing' you'll be delaying forever.

Just my 2 cents.
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True, but pushing back till Summer of 09 also gives us more money in the budget to work with having more time to save.
 
I have got to say I am really happy about the Scarlet announcement, especially if the price is indeed 3k, however the fixed lens really bother me. DOF control is important to me and I don't particularly like 35mm adaptor, they are so big... I wish they would come out with a scarlet with a built in 35mm mount, like a Nikon mount. This camera could be huge with the Documentary crowd. I think the attractive thing about red, is their modular approach, which I wish they would apply to their entire line, not just their high end product. In any case kudo to Red.
 
I still think it's a bit disingenuous to say that you can have a professionally equipped REDOne for even $25k.

We are in the midst of having our leasing company work up our numbers for the fall CAP-EX and a single REDOne package is sitting at $50k without third-party glass. I will be happy to post the full package specification if anyone has any doubt about what constitutes a "professional" specification.

Therefore, a comparably realized Epic package can only rightly be had for $70k with RED glass. The Epic is, so far, advertised as the defacto replacement for the One. Is the One even out of "beta" release yet?

The 2/3" 3k for $3k price point is amazing if it is true.

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Dxmetal said:
with Scarlet, cmos rolling shutter is back
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True.
But I've seen little RED or EX-1 (and now EX-3) footage that I would find unacceptable.
In fact, it's all been pretty damn impressive.
Personally I think that issue has been a bit overblown.

What does cause me a bit of pause the more I look over the pics and specs is the total lack of audio details. Coupled with the unbelievable price of "under $3K" it makes me wonder if we're looking at a video only camera here. Would seem to go against the idea of a 'pocket camera' - but RED doesn't really seem to be aiming for the industrial/ENG market. Maybe their thought is to go for the ultra low budget indie market and expect people to use dual system sound?

God I hope not.
 
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