EX1 Must have equipment

When people who have never owned a high to higher end camera buy a camera they think it's all done, Not So! It has been my experience that if you buy a new camera system you are going to spend 2-5 times the cost of the camera for all the other bits to make a complete usable system. I was recently pricing a Red system and a minimal system configuration was looking to be around $50K not including new computers. So realistically it will be around $100K with a decent supply of glass. I also was pricing the EX1 and it looks to come to $30-40K with cards, monitors, tripod and head, misc stuff. Mostly just shooting gear no post processing. I have no current HD gear so I'm starting from scratch on that front.

So it can add up quickly!
 
RCFisher said:
When people who have never owned a high to higher end camera buy a camera they think it's all done, Not So! It has been my experience that if you buy a new camera system you are going to spend 2-5 times the cost of the camera for all the other bits to make a complete usable system. I was recently pricing a Red system and a minimal system configuration was looking to be around $50K not including new computers. So realistically it will be around $100K with a decent supply of glass. I also was pricing the EX1 and it looks to come to $30-40K with cards, monitors, tripod and head, misc stuff. Mostly just shooting gear no post processing. I have no current HD gear so I'm starting from scratch on that front.

So it can add up quickly!
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The post production is something to take in to account. It's good you brought it up. I live and work in Holland. That's Europe for people that don't know ;-) We work with a PAL system contrary to NTSC. (Never The Same Color) As we joke about the system....

Anyway... we aren't quite up to speed in terms of HD here in Holland. Most households do have 720p lcd's by now but the broadcasting system just isn't ready yet. So for me it was quite a step to the EX1 because it just doesn't shoot SD. While most of my work is delivered in this format. I had to upgrade the monitors in our edit suites, upgrade the storage space on our xserve raid (SAN) and find a new way to archive.

And this brings me to the next subject; archiving. We bought a PDW-U1 pictured below.
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Simply because of the promised shelf life of XD and because we shoot on this format a lot. But Sony wouldn't be Sony if there wasn't a glitch... it does not write back to XDCAM... yet. So at this point where just hogging storage space until the new firmware is delivered at NAB. Still glad we didn't go for blu-ray.

Point being that it's not only the camera, take into account that there is a lot more to it than just the investment of the body. But remember that a lot of this stuff can last you up to 10 years! I have yet to see a new HD tripod...
 
RCFisher said:
When people who have never owned a high to higher end camera buy a camera they think it's all done, Not So! It has been my experience that if you buy a new camera system you are going to spend 2-5 times the cost of the camera for all the other bits to make a complete usable system. I was recently pricing a Red system and a minimal system configuration was looking to be around $50K not including new computers. So realistically it will be around $100K with a decent supply of glass. I also was pricing the EX1 and it looks to come to $30-40K with cards, monitors, tripod and head, misc stuff. Mostly just shooting gear no post processing. I have no current HD gear so I'm starting from scratch on that front.

So it can add up quickly!
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It sure does.

I have had the fortune of owning and/or at least using higher end stuff every day (broadcast HD) so thats where my point of view is coming from. What I was saying basically comes from what any of those broadcast engineers and system integrators will tell you... if you're going to get something cheap, get something cheap. If you're going to spend broadcast money, get something we can use for broadcast.

This is going to be a horrible thing to say about the EX1 because its not true but it is funny and you will understand what I mean when I say it... so here it goes:
you cant polish a turd.

hahaha. sorry if that made anyone mad. i love my ex1 dearly.
 
Also... is the PDW-U1 definately getting a "write to xdcam" firmware update? has anyone confirmed this as fact or is this speculation? it seems like with the announcement of the f700 and accompanying deck they may have made all their NAB xdcam announcements already.

if they do update it I know where my next couple grand is going.
 
there will probably be an announcement at NAB, I am aware of the timescale (it is different for PC and MAC, it's not just firmware it's software for the computer) but it isn't official yet.
 
Camera bag

Camera bag

Yesterday I went shooting with my complete setup. I found it hard to carry the rig in my current Porta Brace.

Any suggestions for a good soft bag fitting the complete rig?
 
I had a similar bag before but found it too heavy to have so much on one shoulder. Backpacks centralise the weight. Way less stress. For me anyway.
 
balster said:
The post production is something to take in to account. It's good you brought it up. I live and work in Holland. That's Europe for people that don't know ;-) We work with a PAL system contrary to NTSC. (Never The Same Color) As we joke about the system....

Anyway... we aren't quite up to speed in terms of HD here in Holland. Most households do have 720p lcd's by now but the broadcasting system just isn't ready yet. So for me it was quite a step to the EX1 because it just doesn't shoot SD. While most of my work is delivered in this format. I had to upgrade the monitors in our edit suites, upgrade the storage space on our xserve raid (SAN) and find a new way to archive.

And this brings me to the next subject; archiving. We bought a PDW-U1 pictured below.
PDW-U1%28img1%29.jpg


Simply because of the promised shelf life of XD and because we shoot on this format a lot. But Sony wouldn't be Sony if there wasn't a glitch... it does not write back to XDCAM... yet. So at this point where just hogging storage space until the new firmware is delivered at NAB. Still glad we didn't go for blu-ray.

Point being that it's not only the camera, take into account that there is a lot more to it than just the investment of the body. But remember that a lot of this stuff can last you up to 10 years! I have yet to see a new HD tripod...
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Are you able to copy complete cards as data to XDCam disc with the PDW-U1?
 
Hey Guys,
I just noticed that you were talking about the Carrion. thank you for your interest.
I've posted a copy of the Postcard I will be handing out at NAB.
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1248041&postcount=260

Also check out the picture of the battery plate. (this particular battery plate has a Gold mount, but you can get it with 2 Panasonic batteries)

If you are going to NAB, send me a PM and we can coordinate meeting. Also, I'll be at the Redrock Micro booth a lot. Also Check out their stuff. I saw their MATTE BOX the other day, and MAN its amazing. completely blew my mind. for that price there is nothing like it.
 
Has anyone bought a Pelican 1650 case for storage/transport of the EX1 with some accessories attached?

I'm patiently shopping for a case that will store an EX1 with a Rode NT4 mounted to it (so the case needs some vertical headroom).
 
I have a Pelican 1650. It is perfect size for this size camera and kit (and quite a bit of kit), all the way up to an XL2 / H1 size camera. It also has telescoping handle and wheels should you pack it so much you don't want to carry it by the handle. Very nice case for the money.
 
Forsooth said:
I have a Pelican 1650. It is perfect size for this size camera and kit (and quite a bit of kit), all the way up to an XL2 / H1 size camera. It also has telescoping handle and wheels should you pack it so much you don't want to carry it by the handle. Very nice case for the money.
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I just ordered the Porta Brace PC3, nice and roomy...
 
philip bloom said:
yes for general use you don't need it, but when shooting with a director or for as you say checking dust and for following focus you need one. The carrion is an indie make, a little untested, but people are saying nice things about it.
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in the meantime, before you can purchase an expensive external HD monitor to check for the dust and gunk, just use the good ole tried and true film practice of "checking the gate" after each shot. if youre shooting with the 35 Dof adapter with Cinema setup, then take the extra 2 seconds of using a flashlight after each take and look into the lens. no dust there=no dust on your shot. if youre truly in a hyper critical imaging situation, then you would use a monitor much larger than just a 7-11" one, likely 17" or more, which means you would not have it camera mounted. Personally, i do not move on from shooting anything important without "checking the gate"....since i still shoot alot of film, i try not to discriminate a practice that is 100years old and nearly foolproof. i am willing to bet phillip, correct me if im wrong, checks his lens cleanliness almost every shot, especially with all of the exterior shooting going on. as far as focus........measure people.....measure........hmmmm lemme just say that again.......measure.
 
I'm using a Kata 205 backpack, seems to work well, I would go for the 207 if you cary more than the essentials like a letus, The 205 is small and only fits the camera and a few extras like spare battery and maybe a shotgun.

My Miller DS20 fits nice on the side of it and usually if i put a bottle of water on the other side it centralizes the weight a little.

You can also get the waist pack to add to the 205 to give you more carrying room, but i don't have one as yet.

One other nice thing with the kata is that it does not look like a camera bag, so when I'm hiking about carrying 10k worth of gear on my back i don't have a red target on my forehead:)
 
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