Xa17x7.6berm
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Hunter Hampton
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I had one and sold it, I bought a SD wideangle. This lens isnt my favorite, it has nasty breathing, and edge-softness problems. The build is really solid though. Try picking up an SD fujinon lens 2nd hand. You wont be sorry you did!
Kit Hannah
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Lens Breathing in simple terms is when the lens appears to zoom slightly in and out when focusing. If you turn the focus dial and it looks like you are slightly zooming, that is Breathing. If you focus and everything stays the same, then the lens is not breathing. Higher end lenses will breathe much less or not at all.
Like Hunter said, If you are going to spend your money on a Lens, you'll be much better going with a used high quality SD lens, which will be far superior in many ways to the lower end HD lenses, and most likely cheaper.
Like Hunter said, If you are going to spend your money on a Lens, you'll be much better going with a used high quality SD lens, which will be far superior in many ways to the lower end HD lenses, and most likely cheaper.
Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
Man you really know hoe to SELL it! :nads:
Hunter Hampton
Carbonite Member
I'm just trying to help. The XA17x7.8 a great usable lens and I love the servo unit and handgrip controls, but as far as it being branded "HD" is just for marketing. You pay way more than the lens is worth because of the "CAC".
I really like wide angle lenses, one of the best SD wideangle lenses you can get is the Canon J11x4.5b. You can get one second hand for 8-10k with a 2x extender. Side by side, even though its "SD" it is more HD than the Fujinon CAC lens.
Maybe I should start a lens business...
Kit, your hired!
I really like wide angle lenses, one of the best SD wideangle lenses you can get is the Canon J11x4.5b. You can get one second hand for 8-10k with a 2x extender. Side by side, even though its "SD" it is more HD than the Fujinon CAC lens.
Maybe I should start a lens business...
Kit, your hired!
Kit Hannah
Veteran
When do I start?! Let's do it.
I"m 99.99% sure that Hunter was talking about the HD Lens when saying "This lens isnt my favorite, it has nasty breathing, and edge-softness problems" although the way he wrote it, it did sound like he was talking about the SD lens.
Look, the Lower end HD lenses look ok, are built decent enough, but they are cheap lenses compared to the High end SD lenses. Don't be fooled because it says "HD" on the lens that it is a superior lens. Glass is glass, most of it is going to look pretty decent. Go shoot something out of a window of your house, with the lens right up to the glass. Would most people be able to tell? I doubt it. But wait...It's not HD glass, what gives?
And think about it this way. Someone a couple of weeks ago in the main SD lens thread brought up a good point. Point and shoot digital cameras can shoot many times the resolution as the HPX, yet cost much less - do they have HD lenses on them? Again, I doubt it. Get some good SD glass for your camera and save a ton of money and forego the breathing. The only way that anybody except the most critical experts is going to tell the difference is by putting identical cameras, one with a HD lens and one with a SD lens, right next to each other, shooting the same exact thing and it being displayed on identical very expensive high resolution broadcast monitors. Then you "might" see a very slight difference. Realize that ALL of your customers will never know the difference in most applications.
Also think of it one more way. Most people that are into HD have seen some nice HD images on TV. You have to realize that TV is HD compressed into a 19Mb or lower HDV stream and it still looks great. An image with an SD lens on DVCPRO HD will look amazing. Just look at the top post in the forum - the SD HPX thread. Look at the images and video throughout, then tell me an SD lens isn't going to look great.
Hunter Hampton
Carbonite Member
Opps, I was talking about the fuji CAC HD lens as not being my favorite. My j8x6 has no breathing at all!
Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
Understood. :thumbsup:
eureka
Well-known member
Thanks for your input guys, so are you saying dont bother with the XA17X7.6BERM lense.
Im getting it really cheap, like Australian $8000.00 which is USD$8888.
Is that a good reason just to have it, or would you still consider something else??
BTW im watching this lense Fujinon A14x9 BERM lens with 2x extender, its old/secondhand but would you consider this lense, If someone is using this particular lense some feed back would be nice.
cheers
Im getting it really cheap, like Australian $8000.00 which is USD$8888.
Is that a good reason just to have it, or would you still consider something else??
BTW im watching this lense Fujinon A14x9 BERM lens with 2x extender, its old/secondhand but would you consider this lense, If someone is using this particular lense some feed back would be nice.
cheers
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Hunter Hampton
Carbonite Member
Its a fine lens, it just breathes really bad. If you shoot film-style with a follow focus you will have issues. If you just shoot eng style, you probably wont even notice it.
I just dont think its worth the price.
I just dont think its worth the price.
Hunter Hampton
Carbonite Member
the peagasus 2? it is external focus...but its as sharp as a tack. Dont spend more than 800$ on it though.
Hunter Hampton
Carbonite Member
I have my canon j8x6 with 2x extender on ebay too, if you want a wide angle its a great buy.
eureka
Well-known member
Yeah...bought it for $400AUD....
Kit Hannah
Veteran
Most new lenses have "internal focus", where the whole front of the lens / front glass does not move to focus. Older lenses, the whole front of the lens turns when you focus, hood, shade and all. If you had a Matte Box attached to it, the whole box would rotate.... THAT is external focus.
Kit Hannah
Veteran
Sure.
Be sure to post some footage and screen grabs under the top section of this forum "Has anyone tested SD Lens on the 500". The more the better.
jalbrecht_d
New member
To add another point to this discussion: I just purchased HPX-500-Set along with the FujinonHD-Lens. In the office I compared it with may 8-year-old-sd-Fujinon A15x8 for D9: The qualitiy was almost equal, the hd-lens a little bit less contrasty, but the coating was much better on the hd-lens than on my old sd-lens.