HVX's MiniDV (URGENT!)

puredrifting said:
Broadway Photo

Bwaahhhh, ha, ha, ha. You have obviously never heard of the legends of the Brooklyn ripoff houses.
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Okay, so it's not unreasonable to assume that there are those that haven't heard of Broadway Photo and the other scam shops.

On the other hand, a simple Google search should have tipped him off...

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What is that site you used to search for things? "Google"? Never heard of it, is that one of those blogs or something I hear my grandchildren talk about?

You kids and your intraweb.
 
He's going to buy from them isn't he? Don't Sticky's work anymore? Kids these days I tell ya. Somebody start a Sticky thread with all the Caveat Emptor cliche's.

"A bird in the hand...
 
Back to the question of dvx or hvx when it comes to SD video:

I will be traveling in Spain and France in January to make an experimental/documentary like collaborative film with 2 other filmmakers (we are from Chicago). One of my collaborators have a dvx100b while I own a HVX200. We will be shooting 4:3 aspect ratio for sure.

My question is:
1. Will SD video from dvx100 be able to intercut with DVCPRO-50 SD video from the hvx200?

2. Is it advisable to just use the DVX100, since we are not carrying lights with us, and the HVX200 don't perform as well in low light?

Thanks!
Jiekai
 
actually the 100b and hvx should intercut perfectly. the 100b's cleaner video should match the cleaner hvx's signal. (and yes the hvx is cleaner than a dvx..... so i dont wanna hear "noise" "noise" "noise" complaints......)
 
Here's the issues: the DVX is one stop faster than the HVX when in progressive (24p/25p/30p). And the DVX is *two* stops faster than the HVX when in interlaced (50i/60i).

But the HVX is always sharper, and when in 16:9 mode the HVX is way a lot mucho sharper than a DVX in squeeze mode.

The third factor applies to 60i shooting (and maybe 50i, I don't know): the HVX makes excessively aliased/stairstepping edges when in 480/60i. The DVX has better interlaced footage than the HVX.

So -- if you're shooting 24p DV50 in 16:9, the HVX is a much superior tool (except that the DVX will be more light sensitive).

If you're shooting 16:9 DV at 60i, the DVX is going to look better and be two stops faster.

So it depends on what your frame rate is, the light conditions, and your aspect ratio (4:3 or 16:9).
 
DVX100B and HVX200 autofocus compared

DVX100B and HVX200 autofocus compared

Adding on to the original question, is the DVX100B's autofocus more responsive than the the HVX200's? Thanks.
 
not that i can tell. Though the HVX's autofocus is kinda wonky. IT just sorta never really focuses on anything in my opinion..... its got like AF add.....
 
as for broadway photo, you won't get the camera for $3500, i promise you that. they will try to upsell you on their crappy accessories, and tell you that the battery and other things don't come with the camera. if you refuse, the camera will magically be on 'backorder'. in the end, you would end up paying more than the $5200 or so that most people sell it for, and still no have a card!
 
Yeah do not buy from Broadway camera or anyplace thats selling the camera for that cheap. It's around a $5000 camera, period. And yes you'll get that 16gb P2 card with it, and believe me you'll be glad... P2 is amazing...

As others have stated, keep in mind that the low light in HVX is noticeably worse than the DVX. If you're going to be shooting a lot of SD you might be better off with a DVX for now; plus it sounds like the HVX may be out of your budget @ $5k. The reason for an HVX if you will be shooting SD is the P2 technology... love it.

Unless you have clients that require HD, you'll probably be shooting a lot of SD for a while until HD becomes mainstream (remember - HD-DVDs or Blu Ray media and burners are still very expensive, any clients need to have a HD TV and HD-DVD/Blu Ray player... plus, even if your client does, they may want to show the video to lots of people and send it off to others, and if they get it in HD they risk incompatibility... I've found for me at least that I am still doing everything in SD. Oh and you'll need a ton of HDD space for HD. I probably won't be doing primarily HD shooting for a couple of years, and I really wish the HVX had better low light for when I am doing live event coverage...)
 
TimurCivan said:
actually the 100b and hvx should intercut perfectly. the 100b's cleaner video should match the cleaner hvx's signal. (and yes the hvx is cleaner than a dvx..... so i dont wanna hear "noise" "noise" "noise" complaints......)
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Not in my experience when shooting 24p/letterbox. "Perfectly" infers they are the exact-same.

When I cut the two together there were noticeable color differences and brightness differences that were easy to spot. The HVX footage skewed a bit more towards an orange/red tint, probably because the HVX is 1 stop slower than the DVX in this case, making it a bit underexposed when we were already at f2.0 while we had DVX's at f2.8.

It was also my sole-experience using the HVX to shoot to Panasonic MiniDV tapes that BOTH HVX's had multiple drop-outs (3-5) in the hour-long footage. The two DVX's we used on the same shoot with the same batch/brand of tape had no drop-outs. Watch for that.
 
you have to remeber the HVX's settings are slightly more aggressive than the DVX's. a chroma level of +1 on HVX is like a +2 on a dvx.

Also, never use Cinelike Gamma on a DVX when trying to match them up. The HVX for some odd reason has no standard Cinegamma ( i wish it did it was my favorite gamma on the DVX)
 
Timur:

Using HD Norm, what detail settings would you advise to make the picture appear "sharper"? I have a client who is complaining that some of the images I am shooting are a little to soft and it's not focus. I don't want to overdo the sharpening but I need it to look a bit sharper.

Thanks,

Dan
 
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