HVX200 P2 FCP Workflow Training DVD from Noah- now available!

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Hi Folks-

If you are constantly pulling your hair out when working with the HVX200 and Final Cut Pro, I have great news. My new Call Box training DVD gives you the A to Z on P2 in FCP. :) Topics covered include:

  • P2 Field Workflow
  • 720p and 1080i
  • Variable Frame Rates
  • Open Format Timeline Editing
  • P2 Ingest
  • Metadata Management Techniques
  • P2 Store and P2 Drive
  • Output to Apple Color
  • Output for 24p DVD
  • Native MXF editing with Raylight
  • and much more...
Check it out:
http://www.callboxlive.com/products/panasonic-p2-workflow-with-final-cut-pro-and-the-hvx200

Hope you enjoy and thanks again for the great support and feedback on our last DVD, Color.

-Noah
 
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i still dont understand why ppl would go with FCP to edit from p2 cameras....i use my hvx200 with the firestore and premiere pro cs3 natively. it can handle the p2 files without the need for a 3rd party plugin. plus, no need to render in premiere pro when you add a filter...it shows up in the preview window immediately when you drop an effect on your clips...that alone should be reason for ppl with the hvx to edit with premiere pro - just my 2cents.

-connor
 
crobs808 said:
i still dont understand why ppl would go with FCP to edit from p2 cameras....i use my hvx200 with the firestore and premiere pro cs3 natively. it can handle the p2 files without the need for a 3rd party plugin. plus, no need to render in premiere pro when you add a filter...it shows up in the preview window immediately when you drop an effect on your clips...that alone should be reason for ppl with the hvx to edit with premiere pro - just my 2cents.

-connor
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Connor-

Very true- other NLEs like Vegas and Premiere do offer native MXF editing out of the box but we find that just isn't necessary for a lot of FCP users. For those that do require it, there's several 3rd party options including Raylight, Calibrated and MXF4Mac. So that alone doesn't strike me as a strong enough reason to switch away from FCP as a platform or vice versa.

Also there is not any rendering required of most effects, filters, transitions in the current version of FCP- and hasn't been since FCP 3. It's about on par with or better than Premiere in the real-time effects rendering dept.

-Noah
 
Noah

I dont remember.. does your DVD cover converting p2 RAW footage to SD? I have p2 footage 720 24pn that i need to down convert to SD before i do my edits since i will be mixing the converted footage with vx2100 sd footage on a DV time line in FCP 6.0 (4x3 aspect ratio)

I could be wring but couldn’t i also just mix both footage together on a DVCPRO HD timeline, do all my edits, then render out as self contained QT mov file, bring into Compressor and down convert to SD? Will everything come out right? My hvx footage is 23.98fps and (shot at 720 24pn) and vx2100 footage is SD shot at 29.98fps

thanks.
 
mcvideo said:
Noah

I dont remember.. does your DVD cover converting p2 RAW footage to SD? I have p2 footage 720 24pn that i need to down convert to SD before i do my edits since i will be mixing the converted footage with vx2100 sd footage on a DV time line in FCP 6.0 (4x3 aspect ratio)

I could be wring but couldn’t i also just mix both footage together on a DVCPRO HD timeline, do all my edits, then render out as self contained QT mov file, bring into Compressor and down convert to SD? Will everything come out right? My hvx footage is 23.98fps and (shot at 720 24pn) and vx2100 footage is SD shot at 29.98fps

thanks.
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Sure the disc describes how to downconvert. I would not recommend mixing 29.97 with 23.98 footage on one timeline. One format needs to be converted to the other first. I'd pick the format that has the highest percentage of footage in the final cut.

So if you have 90% 24p and 10% 29.97, convert the 29.97 to 24p and vice versa. Here's a plugin that handles it either way, don't rely on FCP's open format timeline for the best results:

http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/standardsconversion.htm

Noah
 
Late response bit hey I'll take it.. Thanks Noah. So any chance in a quick 123 on how to use the plugin? The project I had at the time.. I ended up down converting the 720 footage to SD. I then brought everything in a new TL set at SD 4x3. I was not to happy with the results. Client did not notice anything but I did. I would appreciate a quick walk through if you have time since I do another another project next month and I will be using the same cameras. I'm thinking of shooting all SD though until I can get a better image.. Thanks again Noah.
 
mcvideo said:
Late response bit hey I'll take it.. Thanks Noah. So any chance in a quick 123 on how to use the plugin? The project I had at the time.. I ended up down converting the 720 footage to SD. I then brought everything in a new TL set at SD 4x3. I was not to happy with the results. Client did not notice anything but I did. I would appreciate a quick walk through if you have time since I do another another project next month and I will be using the same cameras. I'm thinking of shooting all SD though until I can get a better image.. Thanks again Noah.
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Ha- yeah I gotta pay more attention. That plugin is great- comes with a very clear/simple set of instructions. Worth every penny. I'd always shoot HD- even if you know you're delivering in SD. Much better quality because you have a nice downsampled image- looks sharper than an SD native image.

I'd use an HD timeline and just mark the spots where you go SD and fold those in when you go for the final output. With FCP 6 and up it does all the up and down conversion for you for the basic edit. It's more work but whatever. I suggest whenever possible making everything a single acquisition format.

Noah
 
NoahK said:
I'd use an HD timeline and just mark the spots where you go SD and fold those in when you go for the final output.
Noah
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What do you mean by "mark the spots where you go SD" and "fold those in" when you go for the final output.

My last video i had vx2100 sony cam footage (SD) and HXV200 720 24pn HD footage. I ended up dropping my HXV footage on a sequence that matched my footage (un-edited) and exported as a ref file, then used compressor to down convert to SD. (keep in mind my HD footy was 23fps. I needed to convert that to SD at 29fps) I then opened up a new SD project and mixed my vx2100 SD footage with the converted HXV to SD footage. End result was "ok", but i did not like it at all. It almost seemed the ratio did not match the vx2100 SD footage. It was slightly off. It just had a pinch of ?????? all over it.

Am i missing a step in the process, or is this what you end up with when mixing vx2100 (SD) and HVX (HD) footage converted to SD footage and mixed together?

I appreciate the feedback Noah!
 
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