choose over me66/K6 or NTG2 with Oktava MK12

DavidChia

DavidChia

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Hi all,
Audio has always been the weakest side of my set up. I am currently only using the G2 wireless and my shotgun mic from my DVX (Ag100) .

I need something that I can use out doors and also at the same time have something doors. My budget is $500 for mic and $250 for wind protection and mic support.

I was recently thinking about buying a ME66 / K6 sennheisier or if I should get a NTG2 together with the Oktava MK12 instead.




Thanks in advance.
 
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You have a unique gift for understatement Matt!

Make sure you budget for a proper shock mount and wind protection too. Those two mics won't be that useful without that.

If you are strapped for cash, just get the Oktava with hyper cap, the 20mm BBG, jammer, and ktek kssm. Then add the 12' gitzo CF boom. later you can add the ntg2 and a ktek kzepp.
 
The ME66 isn't even remotely an option. But, take a look at the stickies, there is a nice post that talks about good packages at various price levels.

Phil
 
Based on 15 years of advice from Matt, I got the Oktava and based on other suggestions I got the Rode NTG-1 (same as 2 but without phantom power). Both have been great.

If money is tight I'd buy the Rode shock mount instead of the K-Tek (which is great, but costs more than twice the price). That's what I did, and the isolation is maybe even better than the KSSM.

The KSSM is lower in profile and a little slicker in style but the Rode is really the best for the money. Also need dead cat if outside with the Rode. I got the K-Tek fuzzy. Just as good as Rycote and cheaper. Been in pretty good wind and did not even hear it at all with the Rode and K-Tek wind protector.

Bought NTG-1 and K-Tek fuzzy for $300 at Samy's. Probably can get this type of deal at other places. Get the Oktava at The Sound Room.

I also bought the BBG, but you can get by without it to start if the Oktava in not swinging around and used indoors. I've used it for sit downs so it wasn't really needed, but I thought Matt would haunt me if I didn't get it so I did. Have to admit it looks cool when it is on the mike and the pain of paying $125 for it passed really quickly.

Bottom line is these are both extremely good mikes for the money and you would never be embarrased by the sound they record if you use them right.

In fact, I'll give a little example of my first experience with the Oktava. The first time I was using it was for a series of sit down interviews. I had the mike with the BBG over head pointed just right and about 18 inches above the persons mouth.

In my Sony 7506 head phones I could hear this rubbing noise. I stopped the interview to figure out what was going on and I saw that the guy hand his hands in his lap way over 2 1/2 feet from the mike and he hand his hands folded and was rubbing his thumbs together just slightly. It sounded in the cans like he was rubbing 2 potato sacks together. The mike was so sensitive it was picking this up.

I had to ask him to pull his hands apart and put one on each thigh. Then he started to rub his thighs with his thumbs and I could still hear that. I gave up and just let him go thinking that it was just a waste.

Once I looked at it while editing the noise was never an issue. Didn't really registar on the tape at all and the guy's story was so compelling that even if it did it would not have mattered.

But the point is the mike is incredible to me regardless of what it cost. Then when you factor the cost, it is really incredible.

Besides "Matt likes it, he really likes it!"

(Matt will get it, but if anybody else didn't - think cereal)
 
"Life" Cereal - ah the 60s...

Two boys at the breakfast table:

"Whats' that?"

"It's some new cereal. Mom says it's good for you."

"You gonna try it?"

"I'm not gonna try it...YOU try it..."

"Let's get Mikey...he hates everything!"

(Little Mikey tries it)

"He likes it!! Hey Mikey!!"

I think the three kids were actually brothers. Either way, one of the classic commercials of all time.
 
thanks guys for the tip.

another question. As for the Oktava MK12, should I get the set for all the capsules or just the one capsule? How does each capsules works and for what conditions should it be use for ?

Kelly Olsen said:
I also bought the BBG, but you can get by without it to start if the Oktava in not swinging around and used indoors. I've used it for sit downs so it wasn't really needed, but I thought Matt would haunt me if I didn't get it so I did. Have to admit it looks cool when it is on the mike and the pain of paying $125 for it passed really quickly.

In fact, I'll give a little example of my first experience with the Oktava. The first time I was using it was for a series of sit down interviews. I had the mike with the BBG over head pointed just right and about 18 inches above the persons mouth.
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What is BBG ?

Sorry for my dump question. Should have paid more attention during my audio class.
 
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Ted Spencer said:
"Life" Cereal - ah the 60s...

"He likes it!! Hey Mikey!!"

I think the three kids were actually brothers. Either way, one of the classic commercials of all time.
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Very good. Several people got it. Have no idea how old any of the people are here sometimes so no clue as to how far I can go back in pop culture references.
 
I have the matched Oktava stereo set with all three capsules. I find it a bargain. I have found use for all caps, cardioids and hypers for video (2 hypers for stationary inteviews for example), omnis for ambience & classical recordings with a Jecklin disk.
 
MattinSTL said:
NTG2 and Oktava... by miles.
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Sorry for beeing so noobish on this subject, but I'm trying to understand eveything correctly :)

Why would you take both the Rode NTG-2 and the Oktave MK-12? Don't they have the same characteristics/purpose? Both cardioid condensor, right?

Thanks for answers already :)
 
Dionysos said:
Sorry for beeing so noobish on this subject, but I'm trying to understand eveything correctly :)

Why would you take both the Rode NTG-2 and the Oktave MK-12? Don't they have the same characteristics/purpose? Both cardioid condensor, right?

Thanks for answers already :)
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NTG-2 is a shotgun, and most use the Oktava with a hypercardioid cap. The shotgun has a narrower pattern, which makes it better suited for outdoor use than a hyper, but shotguns have poor off-axis rejection for certain low frequencies, so they're not ideal for indoor filming due to sound bouncing off of walls. With that combo, in general, the Rode would be used for outdoor filming, and the Oktava for indoor.
 
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