HVX-200 Vs. Sony HVR-Z7U

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danielisaiah

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So I see that Sony is coming in the market with a true 1080p cam like the HVX (for $6K+ though)

But, after reading the fine print, it looks like this is a knock-off of the good ol; trusty HVX. And unless Sony has changed their spec sheet on what their "HDV" standard is, this camera will be down converting from 1080p to 1440x1080 and will not offer any good 720p options.......

what do you all think of this new SONY contender?

I think I'm going to stick with my HVX acquisition.....
 
I know nothing, except when I first read about the Sony I thought I made a big mistake getting the HVX200. The Sony records to cards too, but the Sony 25 gig card is only $28 bucks! Can't wait for the P2 cards to be that price!
 
if the sony still shoots HDV format. the discussion is over before it begins.

HDV = YUCK
 
It would be nice to see some more pressure on Panasonic to bring P2 cards into competitive pricing. I would think a 500GB firestore would have the same effect.
 
Pjs2020 said:
I know nothing, except when I first read about the Sony I thought I made a big mistake getting the HVX200. The Sony records to cards too, but the Sony 25 gig card is only $28 bucks! Can't wait for the P2 cards to be that price!
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Ummm... Sony 16GB card is around $900 (around the same as P2). There's no "25 GB card"... you may be thinking of a 25GB Professional Disc?
 
records to CF - awesome
interchangeable lenses - more awesome
HDV - not awesome

that's definitely a dealbreaker for me.
 
HVX200 v Z7

HVX200 v Z7

yeah...DVCPro HD has a better compression rate...but its still 720p.
The images from Sony's 1/4" CMOS chips are gorgeous and beautiful.
Even more so than the HVX. BUT NOW Sony is putting 1/3" chips in
the new Z7 with an even greater low light response which blows the
HVX200 away. Gorgeous Beautiful Wonderful Sony images.

HVX200 - No Estarle Me Gustan, Z7 - Gorgeous Beautiful Wonderful

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HVX200 v Z7

HVX200 v Z7

But then again, this is a Panasonic blog so I guess Pro-Sony opinions are not welcome.
Balanced blogging is overrated anyway isn't it?
 
hiproductions said:
yeah...DVCPro HD has a better compression rate...but its still 720p.
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HVX is 1080p.

The images from Sony's 1/4" CMOS chips are gorgeous and beautiful.
Even more so than the HVX.
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Your opinion, but when the light gets low can you still say that? How about when the rolling shutter causes issues? There's a lot to consider.

BUT NOW Sony is putting 1/3" chips in
the new Z7 with an even greater low light response which blows the
HVX200 away.
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SAYS WHO? Have you tested them side by side? The 1/4" chips are about 2 stops slower than the HVX, the best the 1/3" chips would do is match the HVX.

Gorgeous Beautiful Wonderful Sony images.
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Ah. Explains much. Well, you're entitled to your opinion; I'd rather test 'em side by side.
 
hiproductions said:
BUT NOW Sony is putting 1/3" chips in
the new Z7 with an even greater low light response which blows the
HVX200 away. Gorgeous Beautiful Wonderful Sony images.
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Blows it away in who's estimation?

Yours or some international standards commission?

Give us a break. If you had stated you liked the Sony image better, then I don't have a problem with that

But all this subjective.

BTW, what are your views on Long GOP and CMOS rolling shutters?
 
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Panasonic does not make a fire-store for the HVX, "Focus Enhancement" does. FS100 has been a very faulty piece of equipment, stick with the P2 cards made by PANASONIC.
 
As stated before.. this is a personal choice.. a hammer for different carpenters. Personally though I'd rather have my eyelids burned off than buy a sony camcorder... again just a personal choice as well as I've been making money off the HVX now for almost 2 years and year it will be 2 years and counting.
 
Aram Keledjian said:
FS100 has been a very faulty piece of equipment, stick with the P2 cards made by PANASONIC.
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Well, not really. A "very faulty piece of equipment?" Errr, no, I don't think so.

What you see here are reports of issues, not reports of no issues.

To be objective, the latest firmware has presented less problems.

Not many in a doctor's waiting room stating that they just dropped by to say that they weren't ill.
 
I gotta ask a question... I see a reply stating the HVX is 1080P ? all I see is 1080i 30P ?? please clarify.

Nava
 
The (NTSC) 200 shoots 1080/24p and 1080/30p. Both are 1080p.

But they're recorded in a 60i stream. No matter, because the original progressive frames can be extracted.
 
The HVX shoots 1080p footage. It gets recorded using an interlaced codec, but the footage is progressive and your NLE will un-wrap the interlaced "wrapper" and return it to its original native progressive state.
 
Thank you guys sooo much... I know its sounds stupid but this has been on my mind for awhile. If I shoot 1080i 60 then no luck right? For slow mo .

Thank You

Nava
 
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