HVX-200 vs JVC 250 HDV
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ProfessorU
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Apples vs. Oranges
but I'm sure the people at applelovers.com would tell you that apples are better.
The crux of the comparison:
The stills from the JVC may be sharper (in 720p mode, sometimes).
The HVX records in 1080 and 720.
The workflow will be very different.
The color from the HVX will be truer.
The motion from the HVX will be more detailed.
The HVX does true slow motion.
The HVX records audio at a higher quality (and with twice the channels).
The JVC is cheaper.
but I'm sure the people at applelovers.com would tell you that apples are better.
The crux of the comparison:
The stills from the JVC may be sharper (in 720p mode, sometimes).
The HVX records in 1080 and 720.
The workflow will be very different.
The color from the HVX will be truer.
The motion from the HVX will be more detailed.
The HVX does true slow motion.
The HVX records audio at a higher quality (and with twice the channels).
The JVC is cheaper.
Thank you Ned. I understand that, the point was that the JVC begins with a better picture quality. 1280 x 720 vs. 540 x 960.
Yes, I understand. Ths HVX records 1080 but begins with 540 x 960.Apples vs. Oranges
but I'm sure the people at applelovers.com would tell you that apples are better.
The crux of the comparison:
The stills from the JVC may be sharper (in 720p mode, sometimes).
The HVX records in 1080 and 720.
The workflow will be very different.
The color from the HVX will be truer.
The motion from the HVX will be more detailed.
The HVX does true slow motion.
The HVX records audio at a higher quality (and with twice the channels).
The JVC is cheaper.
You said the JVC is cheaper, but it is actually about $3000 or $4000 more expensive.
Thx.
I think, in part, the answer of what is better is determined by what you are trying to shoot and by other options.
You can get an SDI option with the 250 and if shooting live, go uncompressed out of the SDI directly in to your NLE. That will be unquestionably the best quality you will get.
I think some of the added sharpness that many people perceive from the JVC simply comes from the default setting of the cam.
I personally just am not that much of a fan of HDV. I don't like long GOP editing. I don't like losing color space. I want true over/undercranking. For those reasons, my preference is the HVX.
The bottom line on any camera decision is you actually have to use the camera under your typical shooting conditions, edit the footage to the format in which you normally deliver, and then decide which looks best to you... and which device you prefer using.
My ideal would be a camera with the form factor of the JVC and the guts of the Panasonic.
Ned
You can get an SDI option with the 250 and if shooting live, go uncompressed out of the SDI directly in to your NLE. That will be unquestionably the best quality you will get.
I think some of the added sharpness that many people perceive from the JVC simply comes from the default setting of the cam.
I personally just am not that much of a fan of HDV. I don't like long GOP editing. I don't like losing color space. I want true over/undercranking. For those reasons, my preference is the HVX.
The bottom line on any camera decision is you actually have to use the camera under your typical shooting conditions, edit the footage to the format in which you normally deliver, and then decide which looks best to you... and which device you prefer using.
My ideal would be a camera with the form factor of the JVC and the guts of the Panasonic.
Ned
The HVX does NOT start with a 960x540 image. Each of the three CCDs has that resolution, but the green CCD is offset vertically and horizontally from the red and blue CCDs in a modified Bayer pattern. This gives the camera 1920x1080 photo sites of input and it uses that resolution internally for all processing, deriving all other recording resolutions from it -- the camera never upsamples or scales or anything like that.
ProfessorU
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Sorry I got my prices confused there!
Usually workflow is the deciding factor for most people, picture quality is a close second. It doesn't matter how good the pictures are if you can't shoot what you need.
Usually workflow is the deciding factor for most people, picture quality is a close second. It doesn't matter how good the pictures are if you can't shoot what you need.
mikkowilson
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acquest;
I allready closed one of your threads on this topic, after responding to these questions you are now repeating over and over.
Run a search, you will find that this topic has been discussed MANY MANY MANY times here on DVXuser. If you want more details, please expand on one of these exsiting topics, but don't clog up the forum by starting multiple duplicate threads after we've closed the first one.
- Mikko
I allready closed one of your threads on this topic, after responding to these questions you are now repeating over and over.
Run a search, you will find that this topic has been discussed MANY MANY MANY times here on DVXuser. If you want more details, please expand on one of these exsiting topics, but don't clog up the forum by starting multiple duplicate threads after we've closed the first one.
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