BEWARE OF SELLER - ACIDBURN (Cameron)

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Recently, he agreed to sell an HVX200 camera and package to me, sent me an invoice through paypal and then sold it to someone else. I was moments from transferring $6100. Obviously, it's very unethical and immoral to do something like this.

Like they say... "What goes around, comes around!" Cameron probably knows it's wrong, but in today's world, morality is what ever feels good and can be justified at the moment.

Use your discretion.

Jeremy
 
that's not about the morality but about contract , if you have points take"m to the court and if not he just made a better deal
that's how it works
 
You might be getting ahead of yourself. How long from the time he send the invoice until someone else paid? We are people, not businesses. If there was a significant lapse and someone else was like, "I can pay right now" I can see where this could happen. He should have given you an email heads up though.

He might not handled it perfectly but it is too early to jump all over him.




ash =o)
 
Only about 10 hours had past before he sold it to someone else. We agreed that I would be sending the money the next morning. He notified me the next morning that it had already been sold. If you agree to sell and the buyer agrees to buy, it's a contract, plain and simple. That's what a judge would say. On top of that, he even sent me a paypal invoice, listing all the equipment for the price we agreed.

I hate to sound like a big fat tattle tale, but we're talking about $6k. Life goes on...
 
yeah sending the invoice and then selling to another person is pretty low. Not really sure if an invoice holds up in court as an agreement to sell or how that works. My judge judy education is made up of people that never paid and signed a contract. No one ever seems to be on there trying to get someone for not selling them something... Still scummy though.
 
Jeremy7 said:
Only about 10 hours had past before he sold it to someone else. We agreed that I would be sending the money the next morning. He notified me the next morning that it had already been sold. If you agree to sell and the buyer agrees to buy, it's a contract, plain and simple. That's what a judge would say. On top of that, he even sent me a paypal invoice, listing all the equipment for the price we agreed.

I hate to sound like a big fat tattle tale, but we're talking about $6k. Life goes on...
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No contract at all, that is what a judge would say. Until money changes hands, you have a verbal agreement. He mishandled it but you lost nothing and he was in no way trying to rip you off.


ash =o)
 
SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT --

Thank you to everyone who e-mailed me to let me know that I was being bashed on dvxuser, and for taking the objective road and the opportunity to explain the situation and defend the circumstance.

I was contacted by this individual because he wanted to by my camera package that was for sale. Immediately, I knew something was wrong because he was SO desiring to buy it and have it shipped as soon as possible across the country.

Look, I've been contacted by a LOT of people to by my package... and EVERYONE has asked me a ton of questions. How much use does the camera have> What kind of work have you done with it? Has it ever been damaged? Do you have a website so I can see your work?... all the questions someone who CARES about their equipment would ask.

I was surprised that he spent 2 minutes on the phone with me, asked me no questions... only that he would send me the money through PayPal and that he wanted it.

Well, I sent him two e-mails asking him to CONFIRM the details... he never responded to the second. I sent him a breakdown through PAYPAL for him to review... and of course, NO MONEY WAS EVER TRANSFERED.

I became worried about selling to this buyer, had no confidence in the deal... and was afraid my BEAUTIFUL CAMERA was going to go to an ABUSIVE father.

AND HERE'S THE BEST PART... I sold it to a kid who had saved every penny he could to buy a camera. Told me that he is going to start shooting every day. Inspected the camera for 2.5 hours just to make sure everything worked... and he could only afford a certain amount which was $100 LESS THAN MY OFFER TO THE GUY WHO IS RIPPING ME...

So, guys... it wasn't about money.

And just to let you know how disturbed I was by his e-mails... here are a few excerpts... you judge who is honest here:

READ THEM ALL -- TRUST ME!

#1:
"Your actions are unethical and illegal. I fully expect you to honor the contract that you made yesterday. I’m not going to brush off this breach of contract. I advise you to cancel the second sale of the same product and honor the original agreement. I don’t wish to seek legal counsel"

#2: "
I highly recommend you buy it back or you'll have a judge that orders you
buy the same camera with all the parts you listed to sell for $6100. Sorry,
but I've been cheated too many times this year and this is the last straw.
I'm just as wrong for continuing to allow it to happen. I'll give you 24
hours to work things out, then I'll take it to the next step"

#3:
"You may be use to committing such unethical acts and getting away with it,
but I promise someday you'll stand before God and answer for such wrong
behavior. It might not be a big deal now, but it surely will be then."

#4:
"I've contacted small claims in Venice, California and will be filing a case
tomorrow morning for $75.00. A judge will look at the situation and see
that you agreed to sell and I agreed to buy, which facilitates a contract.
He'll rule that you must provide the same equipment that you already sold
and sell it to me for $6100. "

#5:
"There is a point at which the law becomes immoral and unethical. That point
is reached when it becomes a cloak for the cowardice that dares not stand up
against blatant violations of justice. You have 24 hours to let me know how
you plan to remedy the problem."
 
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