"Without Provocation" - a Norm Sanders (Envision) film

Geoff_R said:
You did a really good job with your performance...in fact, I liked all of the performances but yours and Rebecca's stood out the most. Rebecca totally reminded me of Trinity from the Matrix in a lot of scenes :)
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Sweet! Thanks Geoff! That means a lot coming from you. I appreciate the feedback. :)
 
RebeccaD said:
Sweet! Thanks Geoff! That means a lot coming from you. I appreciate the feedback. :)
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If I can ever make a big action movie in the future, I'd want to put you and Norm in the cast :)
 
I love the diversity in here! Some people hated our acting, others loved it. Scratch that ... some people hated MY acting, everyone loved Rebecca's, as well as most of the rest of the cast's, lol. :beer:

Seriously, Geoff, thanks for the kind words! I just saw you have an extended cut of Project 47!! I just downloaded the 720P version of it, and can't wait to watch it ... I remember LOVING what you did with that one from the HorrorFest.
 
Norm, first off...I think it'd be really difficult to direct yourself in a scene. You've got no one there giving you an objective point of view and saying, 'no that didn't work, let's try something different'. Sure, you can watch playback but you're always going to be subjectively analyzing yourself.

I've seen you act in your previous films and I'll admit that I think you were 'okay' in those, not bad or anything, just 'okay'. But in this one, you were a lot better, noticeably better. Not sure why that is or what you did different, but I didn't feel like 'here I am watching Norm'...I felt like you were a character in this fabricated world.

The biggest thing I notice is improvement...you're getting better with each film, both on and off the screen. Same with Rebecca, she gave a really raw and visceral performance this time around; it wasn't carried with her dialogue but more so the facial expressions and body language.

So yea...long rant but I'm in favor of your acting :)
 
A quote I discovered tonight, it may or may not be pertinent :thumbsup:

"Sometimes hysteria in production problems can be communicated successfully as energy up on the screen."
-Alexander Mackendrick
 
norm, just my 2 cents on your acting..... i thought you did well (much better than i could do, and much braver putting yourself on screen) and maybe it's just because I've seen your face on here a lot and know that you're a filmmaker, but i think it comes through in your acting that you're also the director. all the other actors get the luxury of just focusing on their character, but you have to juggle that with all the other responsibilities of the film and i think it shows in your acting. i get the feeling that your acting would be great if you did a film where you just acted for a director that you feel confident and comfortable with. i also get the feeling that you might view your part in acting as "filling the role" for the film as opposed to really diving into your character and making it 3 dimensional. all that being said i think you did a good job and are improving, and you seem to be a guy with a good honest outlook that is always looking to improve so i just wanted to help out if i could
 
First, I have to say, I have so much respect for you taking a risk like you did and going for such a unique look. That takes guts.

Having said that, I loved everything about this film, except for the look. In fact, I hadn't read the threads before watching these films and when yours first came up, I thought it was a compression error.

However, everything else was wonderful. I loved the story, the acting, the pacing, the energy of it, and I especially liked Herman's score. Overall, I really enjoyed this film.
 
I must admit that when Norm send me the film to compress it I was like wtf? I didn't understand that he will be submitting the tweak version. After a while I got used to it and it looked rather cool, meaning I like the fillm that way.
My objection is all that fuzz about the look. He liked it, he subitted it like that, big deal. All this situation reminds me of looking the finger instead of where it points to.
 
Holy ****


this movie was phenomenal.
absolutely blew me away.

by far the coolest looking one i've seen yet.
bravo, guys. really.
 
Charli said:
The Scanner Darkly look to me was a distraction, I understand why you
did it, it was to make up for lack of content. ...

Next time, try to use the entire 6 minute with content.
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Wow Charli.

Just wow.

Can you hear yourself?

You need a rewrite.

There's a way to give negative feedback that's within the constructive spirit of this community and that's not it.

EDIT: Self moderated.
 
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Just to springboard off of Jack's comment...

There's a difference between constructive comments, and rash, disrespectful comments.

And, keep in mind... films are art... and it's all subjective... your ideal film may not be mine, or vice-versa...

:)
 
Norm,

The needle scene is phenominal.

I've been thinking about it this morning and just had to go watch it again.

It's like, reinventing the flashback. It feels like I've seen it before, but I can't put a finger on it. Awesome.

I might not even want to watch the unfiltered version, I don't want it to ruin what I already have seen. The effect definitely works. I can't imagine it without the filter.

Alright enough rambling.

zach
 
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I agree zach...I too was very impressed with that scene. It works beautifully, and I think it does so because of the "filter". I'm not sure, though I could be wrong, that it would work as well without the filter ... although I want to see it unfiltered so I can get a better idea how this was shot.
 
Yep, I must echo the amazing moment that scene was. I remember thinking...Holy crap...that rocked! Good job to all of you!
 
Jack Daniel Stanley said:
Wow Charli.

Most people are too afraid of confrontation to call you out on it and I guess I have been one of them "Every one has a bad day ... it's just that one comment" but it's not just that one comment.

Please try to have a little more respect for us. You haven't really ever done anything to warrant your tactless arrogance, and yet we all continue to treat you with more respect than you show us. Not anymore. At least for me.
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Amen, brother.
 
Hmmm.

I flipped into this thread seeing that Jack had posted and was hoping for some of his usually incredibly valuable comments on Norm's film.

Suffice to say I was disappointed.

And I think Norm demonstrates very well how to accept and handle criticism regardless of whether or not it is fair, over-the-top or entirely off-base. And he is well-equipped to defend himself.

I didn't see anything in Charli's post which attacked Norm personally.

I can't say that in relation to your post, Jack - laterally attacking a fellow member expressing her views. And I find that rather sad.

Perhaps we are all destined to become what we most fear and dislike.

And now I'm going back to work.
 
Dahopafilms said:
Hmmm.

I didn't see anything in Charli's post which attacked Norm personally.

Perhaps we are all destined to become what we most fear and dislike.
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Have you read through Charli's thread? I think she and Norm have a history.

You honestly don't think Charli's comment was out of the spirit of the fest?
 
Hey Norm. I haven't had a chance to read through all 12 pages of posts...only skimming.

Seems to be some back and forth on the look, etc., but I'm wondering if you're going to do an unfiltered version? I tried to get through it, but it was just too distracting.

I'm really a fan after your dramafest entry so I was really hoping just to sit back and watch you and your cast do your thing.

I'd really love to see it in it's natural state. Seemed to be some good tension, shot selection, etc.

Sorry, not to come on with a lot of positive feedback.

Best,

Jason
 
I'm actually shocked that the majority of comments/reviews on this site are VERY positive. (I'm talking about every entry for SpyFest, not just this one.)

It seems that there is a strong sense of family and people do get offended easily when someone speaks their opinion. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

It's funny though, everyone complained that "On the Lot" needed a "Simon" type judge. When Michael Bay filled that role everyone was thrilled.

Yes, there is a right way and a wrong way when delivering a harsh review. Unfortunately, this is the Internet and things can be taken worse than intended.

Constructive criticism is welcome, but there is a fine line.

Now I'm going to get a flood of harsh reviews for my entry. :huh:
 
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