HV20 vs DVX100

[Patrick Bower]

Apologies for the last post. There must have been something wrong with the HV20 footage. Obviously the HV20 is much better than the DVX100.
Here is a better comparison, actual size, cut from frame grabs from Vegas at 1920x1080 pixels.
Patrick

 

[Indieguy101]

Still confused?

Still confused?

I truly hope to work in professional film and video production.
Does getting the Hv20 put me at a disadvantage?
Can I really shoot a professional music video or independent film with the HV20?
I wish to teach myself all I can about cameras. I am wondering if eventually going into a small budget set, will I be laughed at if I show up with an HV20? or does the Panasonic dvx100b or at Dvx100a get me the proper respect?
Does anyone see the HV20 actually being used on reality tv shows, Mtv and such networks, as I am aware that the Dvx 100a and/or 100B are sometimes used by these networks.
I am talking about small budget projects, not $10 million projects.
My bugdet is only about $1800.

 

[Huy Vu]

I truly hope to work in professional film and video production.
Does getting the Hv20 put me at a disadvantage?
Can I really shoot a professional music video or independent film with the HV20?
I wish to teach myself all I can about cameras. I am wondering if eventually going into a small budget set, will I be laughed at if I show up with an HV20? or does the Panasonic dvx100b or at Dvx100a get me the proper respect?
Does anyone see the HV20 actually being used on reality tv shows, Mtv and such networks, as I am aware that the Dvx 100a and/or 100B are sometimes used by these networks.
I am talking about small budget projects, not $10 million projects.
My bugdet is only about $1800.

Do you plan to use the HV20 to learn or do work? It's a fine camera if you want to experiment and learn about filmmaking but if someone hires you and you show up with it don't be suprised if they look at you weird. It's sad, but it's true; people need to feel that they got their money's worth. Now obviously showing up with a DVX and delivering crap work won't get you respect either.

 

[GlimmerGhost]

I'd say slap a Canon WD-H43 and a professional looking matte box or a Breavis and their line of matteBox, Follow focus and what not (total with camera is probably $2600) and try that on a set... then throw alot of B.S. at the client,

"Yea, did you know this is the first Camera of it's kind at it's level? It has 1080i and shoots 24p and photon phasers and has a self calibrating fluxcapacitor with a minimal el Nino effect on it's Sensor.... what? Oh no, it's a 1 chip camera but who needs three chips when this sucker senses everything from Light to Maximus Prime movement in the Decepticon range, did I mention it has remote keyless entry?"
Then see if you dont get some friggin R-E-S-P-E-C-T on a set.

 

[Zim]

You can always do small projects with it. You can make a low budget movie with anything.

But if Ford Motor Company ask you to do a national spot, don't show up with the HV20 unless they ask you to bring one.

I think times are changing. To make a movie you don't need a $100,000 camera or a movie studio backing you. Make a film and self promote it on the internet for free via YouTube , MySpace, etc. It will get you started and you never know what might happen.

My advice is not to spend to much the first time. You see to many people selling their cameras with only one hour on them. "For sale, DVX100 with only 5 hours. I thought I was going to use it"

HV20 with a wide angle, good mic extra battery maybe around $1300

A new DVX100b stock $2650

Canon A1 after rebate $3250

Good luck it is a tough choice.

 

[Zim]

I'd say slap a Canon WD-H43 and a professional looking matte box or a Breavis and their line of matteBox, Follow focus and what not (total with camera is probably $2600) and try that on a set... then throw alot of B.S. at the client,

"Yea, did you know this is the first Camera of it's kind at it's level? It has 1080i and shoots 24p and photon phasers and has a self calibrating fluxcapacitor with a minimal el Nino effect on it's Sensor.... what? Oh no, it's a 1 chip camera but who needs three chips when this sucker senses everything from Light to Maximus Prime movement in the Decepticon range, did I mention it has remote keyless entry?"
Then see if you dont get some friggin R-E-S-P-E-C-T on a set.

tell them the throw out switch in the wobbly shaft are only bad on the PAL cameras.

Just incase they read internet forums!

 

[24Peter]

Add me to the list of people who sold their DVX (original) after getting an HV20.

For me the killer camera right now would be a 2-3lb. version of the HV20 with a larger lens, full manual controls (zoom, focus rings) XLR inputs and a quieter body.

 

[StayNuts]

just to update my first post, I got a DVX100B...
have it more then a year now and I really love my panny...

reason...
- full manual controls, especially the manual focus ring & iris control ring.. love it!
- 2 x XLR inputs with built-in phantom power
- the great low light performances
- the colors of a Panasonic, never liked a Canon for that reason! In photography I also prefer a Nikon, Leica or Hasselblad above each Canon...
- the DVX has a lens of 72mm and the HV20 43mm... how bigger the lens, how more light you can get into it... makes the shoot more brighter and benefits in the night...
- 24P
- 3 chips
- it don't has a built in camera, will use my nikon for that, or a hasselblad...
- it's a PANASONIC... and I got already a PANNY (SDX)
- the professional look, most customers are stupid and they only think that big camera's can do the job... a small camera is more seen as homevideo material... I own also a SDX and see the difference with them when I show my DVX and SDX...
- when I put my shotgun with a rycote on the camera, it still look like a camera with a microphone and not a microphone with somewhere a small lens...
- the weight of the camera, I am used to heavy shoulder camera's and I can't work with a sisi lightweight camera as the HV20... need volume to hold it and the Panny DVX has it...
- can use the footage of the SDX and DVX together without mayor differences...

me and equipment supplier tested both camera's out during a sunset on the beach... our conclusion was that the footage of the Panny gives a better color and need less post-processing during editing... if you love to film with manual controls, what I always do, then is the DVX absolute the winner... for me, nothing can beat to shoot the perfect footage in the field without any post-processing during editing... then I know that I do my job well...

just my 2 cents...

 

[NozL]

This is exactly the thread I was looking for. My friend says to wait for the Red camera (I can't remember which model) How does (will that) mix it up with these two? (I haven't looked for a thread about it just yet, will do now.) I think she said the model wasn't quite out yet, or... wait for the price to drop. I can't quite remember what she said.

 

[vsansal]

This is exactly the thread I was looking for. My friend says to wait for the Red camera (I can't remember which model) How does (will that) mix it up with these two? (I haven't looked for a thread about it just yet, will do now.) I think she said the model wasn't quite out yet, or... wait for the price to drop. I can't quite remember what she said.

It is the RED Scarlet. I am guessing it will be at least a year till we can see one on the market.

 

[Jason Ramsey]

Jim says their target for Scarlet right now is fully working models at NAB. Shipping shortly thereafter, and shipping in mass quantity by fall of next year.

Scarlet has completely changed though for those that don't already know. We're waiting for the new specs slated to be released "early November" over on Scarletuser

Later,
Jason