And they said Macs don't crash...

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BLUESPIDER

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I thought I would never convert to Mac but I have. So far, everything is cool...up till it crashes. WHY?

Plus when it doesn't crash it's really slow... ?

Sorry I'm no Mac guy but damn, I could of just used my PC if it performs like this.

I have a dual core intel xeon with 4 gigs of RAM. Photoshop and other programs runs really slow. Anyone know why? DO I need a better video card? More ram? A change of career? ?
 
Photoshop and those other programs were made for the PPC processor,and are being emulated by rosetta on your Intel system. But if you have the new CS3, which is Intel-compatible, then I'm not sure what to say...
 
yeah, im guessing your using non-native apps if your getting slow response. As for crashing, I've always been a mac guy and indeed it crashes, not nearly as often as my dad's PC, but it does happen. I just use mac because I've always used mac. I learned FCP so i STILL use mac.
 
Would getting more RAM and a better video help in speed? We will upgrade to CS3 but damn, let us learn and master CS2 first.
 
I've got MacBook Pro with 2 gigs and half the processors and PS and other Rosetta apps don't run slow for me. Not nearly as fast as native, I'm sure, but I haven't exactly been sitting around waiting.

Search for a program called Applejack (try versiontracker.com). It cleans out cache files and does other low-level system maintenance. I run every so often and it always peps things up.
 
Applejack eh? I'll have to get that myself. However, watching some mac guys talk about macs.... I figured wow thats the end all to computer problems! Eh... my G5 has the same amount of problems my pc has. Neither one has very many problems, but they do exist in both.
 
Hey dude, I know it sucks when you buy the top of the line machine only to reaalize that it isn't any faster than a g3 imac.

It's not so much a hardware problem as a software. Apple kinda changed the rules on everyone and they are all left out in the cold. Adobe kinda just said F*ck you "Adobe Systems on Wednesday said it has no plans to re-release its current applications as Universal binaries that can run natively on both Intel- and PowerPC-based systems, and instead will focus on delivering native support for Intel Macs along with the next major versions of its software."

Hopefully 07' will have some changes in that.

It seems only the upber high end stuff is using the hardware to it's fullest and for the rest of us? Well, stick with a PC next time. They are cheaper, and just as stable these days.

I have been a mac user for my whole life and let me tell you, they DO crash. I also have a quad, intel with 3gig of ram and using illustrator on it is a f*cking joke.

It's decent for FCP but so was my powerbook.

You got tricked by good marketing. Sorry to break it to you.
 
JasonFox, awesome. Thanks for the tip. I've been suffering for a whole week needlessly.

Bigups,
rook
 
Thanks for making me feel good about my dual 2.0 G5 even though the boot volume becomes read only upon waking every couple days which REEEEEALLLLLLY pisses me off and makes me wanna get out a large sledge hammer and just smash the whole thing into a wad of fancy mangled aluminum. Nobody else seems to be having the issue so I assume it's related to my aftermarket 75gb raptor drive. But creative suite runs like a top when I'm not rebooting.
 
rook said:
JasonFox, awesome. Thanks for the tip. I've been suffering for a whole week needlessly.

Bigups,
rook
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Feel free to buy me a copy, too. Man, even the upgrade is stupid expensive.
 
A XP on a well-tuned PC is no more crashy than OS X. I've used both, though currently I'm mostly on a mac, and I have never run Vista.

Macs are definitely not crash proof. Further, there are lemons out there, f.ex. the 20" G5 iMac was a lemon with bad motherboards. The G3 iBook was a lemon (again, motherboards). The G4 Titanium PowerBook was twitchy.

My Dell Inspiron 1100 (bottom rung laptop from 2003) never, ever crashes (XP) - I've also never had viruses or mal/adware (then again, I'm very careful).

Overall, I still prefer mac and OS X- not because it's more stable (in my experience, if anything, it's slightly less stable than XP), but because there's less to maintaining it. With XP, you have to keep running anti-virus and more important, keep updated on your anti malware and adware programs or else it'll bog down real fast. With OS X, you don't have to bother with virus software, adware, malware, and general maintenance: no defragmenting, no maintenence routines necessary (various software for that exists, like AppleJack, Onyx etc., but it's actually totally 100% unnecessary).

On a mac, you just get your work done with minimum of fussing with the computer.

That said, the software choices are super thin compared to Windows :(

I would never discourage anyone from using Windows, and I'm definitely against any kind of mac snobbery. Both have their strong and weak points.
 
I love Applejack. It doesn't solve everything, but it's the first thing I try when things seem a bit weird -- and it usually works. I haven't really needed it on my new MBP, though. This thing has been much more bulletproof than my last gen G4 Powerbook.
 
With PC you have to have a firewall and that's it. Stay away from pornographic sites and your computer stays clean.

I haven't had a computer virus in six years, and that was when I learned the importance of an aftermarket firewall program like ZONEALARM.

Mac's crash, Mac's are just as slow, and Apple's driver support is a steaming pile. The Xeon Mac Pro is a steaming pile.

I'd rather buy a copy of OS X 10.4 and run it on a PC than purchase a Mac; which is what I'm going to do.

For reference: I had the opportunity to use a Quad Xeon a few weekends back and it was so garbage. Even sitting on 3 gigs of DDR2-- though that might be due to the fact that it's 667... BOOO.

Really though, OS X on a PC is for the win. For half the Price of a Mac Pro, I'll still get OS X, Final Cut Pro privledges, and 4 gigs of DDR2-800. Oh, and overclocking fun.
 
I'm anxious to run a mac platform on a PC but it seems that it is not so groovy yet. I haven't come across anyone saying "ahh, works like a dream! Stable as concrete".

It's coming, I know, but it ain't here yet.

God it'll be awsome to be running FCP on a killer rig that only cost 800 bucks

http://www.osx86project.org/
 
ive had my mac mini on for over 2 years, just restart for updates, hasnt crashed once, i honestly cant remember the last crash ive had on a mac. any of them. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 of them that i use daily. 4 personal, 2 office.
 
Try running photoshop and illustrator with DPI in the near thousand with several dozen layers. See if you notice any difference in performance? Doing billboard stuff requires some very high rez stuff and even with 4gigs of ram on this intel xeon isn't cutting it for me. My PC can make better eggs.

I hate upgrading when I haven't even had a chance to get familar with the old version. It's frustrating and it still is acting up. Just slow. I don't even think I can play Oregon Trail on this Mac.
 
OMFG LOL. Oregon TRAIL!?!?! Wow. Ebay it now.

Rook - There ARE some stable setups in there, actually. It seems to me the trick is staying with what Mac Pro's are running now. There's actually one guy that cuts on a custom Hackintosh in Final Cut, and he said it runs a lot faster than his Quad Xeon.

7800GT Nvidia cards, and Gigabyte motherboards are doing the trick. They've ironed out a TON of kinks on that site and I'm pretty confident in building my PC to be a multi-boot system.

XP/Vista-64/OS X 10.4.8+/Linux.
And for only half of what the Mac Pro costs, I'll be double that Quad Xeon paperweight.
 
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