Here are my Canon HV20 Clips just filmed!

i'm getting the HV20 when it comes out here in Australia. not sure when that'll be :(
but when i do, i was going to post footage from a 16mm short i'm working on and the HV20, see if people can tell the difference. i think we'll be using 500T. i'm going to have the LetUs35A adapter for the HV20. it should be pretty interesting :) 1080p24 being the digital equivalent of 16mm

xray - being the film enthusiast you are, you should check out this awesome short called "respire"
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/inCamera/july2006/respire.jhtml

i think people are frightened of the HV20. because it means the poorer filmmakers can have footage that looks just as good as the rich ones.
 
Thanks jenningsp. Respire is a good story and great little project that is presented in Rotterdam. For your film in Australia try for a clear day exterior shoot a small grain low speed like vision2 100T 7212. That is a nice looking film. For a coming project -very mobile settings and small interiors- I'll probably use the b-roll hv20 as well, and as tapefeed for the a1 shoots.
 
i've been having a hard time locating a copy of it. i don't think you can get it anywhere :(
i think the lower speed stocks are too clean. they look like a car commercial or something. i have more of a gritty realist style.
 
I've downloaded a lot of the footage, and I seem to get jaggies around movement and edges every few frames... have a frame grab to post if someone can tell me how to insert a picture in my post. This is a deal breaker for this cam for me as it indicates a lack of true progressive capture. Am I doing something wrong?
 
Can we please have a sticky in this forum about PULLDOWN!! So many people comment about interlace artifacts and seem to not understand the necessity of 2:3 pulldown for conforming to the 60hz "NTSC" 1080i standard.

There are 2 interlace frames after every 3 progressive frames in a 5 frame sequence. This is to allow 24 progressive frames to be carried in the 29.97 fps 1080i standard. This is exactly the same as how standard HVX 1080 24p (not advanced) is carried within DVCPRO HD 1080i.

HV20 24p can be extracted from the 29.97 recording in order to save the material as *true 24p*. I can't believe how many dvxusers don't understand this mode on the HV20.
 
Yes, a sticky would be great. I understand that these cameras all use pulldown, but dropping my DVX clips into a 24P timeline (with pulldown) in Vegas 7 doesn't show these effects. What would be the proper project settings in Vegas to eliminate this problem? I also see these interlace effects when I play in back in the latest version of Quicktime. Any suggestions?
 
Quicktime will undoubtably show you the interlaced frames. In order to get the progressive frames you need to reverse telecine the files back to 24p.

The catch is that most of the NLEs on the market do not yet support the type of pulldown that the HV20 uses. Somebody mentioned something about Vegas having support because the Sony HDV cameras use the same pulldown method.

A nice topic for another thread would be proper workflow for getting 24p out of the HV20. I think a lot more people would be inclined to buy one if they knew the process involved. (Canon should send some official representatives to this site. They would probably more than pay their own salary in sales.)
 
Thanks rap. I tried working in Vegas on a DV 24p timeline and that got rid of the interlaced frames, but in the HDV 1080 24P I still get them. Maybe I need to be working on my FCP system... and maybe I should have been posting in the Vegas forums... or in another thread....
 
So, what NLE, what settings?

So, what NLE, what settings?

So, went to the Vegas section of the forum, and people are having this issue, i.e., no pulldown removal. Here's the link: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=909283
My question is, since Final Cut is having the same issues, what NLE are people using to edit the 24P content from this camera. I am absolutely loving the footage I've seen, but without an NLE to edit it...
What NLE do people recommend for 24P HDV footage for the HV20, XL H1, etc.?
 
DVXSanDiego said:
So, went to the Vegas section of the forum, and people are having this issue, i.e., no pulldown removal. Here's the link: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=909283
My question is, since Final Cut is having the same issues, what NLE are people using to edit the 24P content from this camera. I am absolutely loving the footage I've seen, but without an NLE to edit it...
What NLE do people recommend for 24P HDV footage for the HV20, XL H1, etc.?
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You can edit it in any nle but it just won't be 24 discrete frames because it's embedded in a 60i timeline, but it will still look 24p to the eye. That's my understanding at least.
 
Barry_Green said:
The HV20 is going to be a massive hit, because it delivers absolutely amazing price/performance ratio. I got mine for $925 ($937 including shipping!) That's completely untouchable.
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Just ordered mine, yeah I was a bit slow this time around, wanted the prices to settle a little in Tokyo and didnt have any urgent need for it. But glad I did.

http://www.hikaku.com/shopping/index.html?module=detail&action=Product&product_id=18887864

EDIT - Have a close look at the weight they have stated on the cam on thier website - time for gym.

92000 Japanese Yen(s) = 770.777 US Dollar(s)

Now at that price its rediculous.
 
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