HVX displayed on a 50" plasma

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UtahDPDude

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Ok here is my question. I have never gotten a good picture from my HVX when I view it out of the component video. It always looks like Crap. I have plugged it into a New 21" dell LCD to see the native 720p and the edges were all bad the colors were terrible ect... now I know that a LCD is not the best display for video but it looked like I was looking at my HVX but worse.. Now for those of you that think I have just plugged in the SD side of the camera I sure don't think I have. All the settings were for the 720pN. I have recently purchased a 50" plasma T.V. which has a very nice picture and I though that it being a T.v. should have a good picture from my HVX. Yah no go. I plug in the Component cables and it still looks like I am taking SD and blowing it up to HD. Grainy, edges are not sharp, color is bad, ect... So if anyone has had any luck with seeing the 720p image through the component let me know. I am beginning to think that there is something wrong with my camera. I mean if I can't get a good image from the HD then how am I supposed to light anything. You can't just guess and then push and pull in post. This is not film.
 
We run are HVX200 to a Fujitsu 50 inch plasma and a Samsung 32 inch LCD and the picture looks fabulous.

Can't comment on descriptions like "crap," "terrible," or "color is bad," because they don't mean anything to me.

As to grainy, no. And edges not sharp, no.

You might try some adjustments in the cam if these are issues.
 
This is a long shot, but there is a setting in the camera that can set your Component Out "port" to be standard def.... did you check that setting to make sure it isn't stuck in 480 mode by accident?
 
UtahDPDude said:
Now for those of you that think I have just plugged in the SD side of the camera I sure don't think I have. All the settings were for the 720pN.
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Just to be sure you have it set up the right way. Make sure you are using the component cable that came with the camera. ie. the cable with a D4 connector on the camera end and then 3 RCA plugs (red, green & blue) on the other end that plugs into the component in on your plasma set. Now go into the AV in/out set up menu. Set the "component out sel" to 720p (there is no pn selection here). Now go back to the recording set up menu and make sure your recording format is 720. You should now be able to see a live feed from the camera to your plasma display. How does it look? (Make sure you have enough light in the room).

Sorry if this seems simplistic but there was a post a while ago asking the same thing. Turns out the guy was using the supplied yellow, red & white cable from the composite out/audio out on the camera and plugging it into the component input on a TV.
 
We project HVX footage on a 10' or 12' screen at the HVX BootCamps, and it looks abso-frickin-lutely amazing. Hundreds and hundreds of HVX users have viewed this reel and seen what the HVX is capable of, and it's capable of terrific results.

Obviously there's something wrong with your setup; the first thing is trying to use a Dell computer monitor to view your footage. I have a Dell 24" and the HVX looks hideous on it when used through the component inputs, but the same footage looks fantastic when brought in through the computer and displayed on the same monitor. Conclusion? The Dell's component inputs are GARBAGE.

I'd also suspect that maybe you have it set for CMPNT OUT SEL to 480i; that sounds like a reasonable guess.
 
I have played both SD and HD footage through the component cable to a 42" Pana plasma and the footage looked amazing. I haven't had the problem you describe.
 
Barry_Green said:
I'd also suspect that maybe you have it set for CMPNT OUT SEL to 480i; that sounds like a reasonable guess.
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90% sure thats your problem.
 
^^^ Agreed. ROFL. I bet his component is set to 480i. Change it to 1080i or 720p and see the difference.

By the way, 480i24pA looks pretty fantastic if your television has a ZOOM function.
 
Hey folks thanks for all the posts back but it's not the component out. I have it coming from the component out cable to the component input to my T.V. I have made double sure that my AV out is set to 720p and that my record mode is 720p. The only thing that makes me a bit disappointed is that when I switch the output from 720 to 480 I do see a difference but not much of one. Example: I am in my living room at noon with lots of natural light coming in from my many windows. The picture in 720p still looks noisy in the highlight areas. The edges of things, say my mac book on the table, don't look sharp I still feel like I am getting the 4:1:1 signal being blown up on my T.V. I know it's hard to diagnose a problems if you can't really see what it's doing, words like not sharp can mean anything I know. But I am at the point of taking it back to the shop and saying plug it into one of your HD displays and tell me if there is something wrong with it.
 
UtahDPDude said:
The only thing that makes me a bit disappointed is that when I switch the output from 720 to 480 I do see a difference but not much of one.
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So when you switch the output from 720p to 480i does the aspect change on your TV. ie. does the picture now have black bars down the side?
If you can post a pic of how you are connected and a pic of the TV image that may help people to diagnose the problem
 
UtahDPDude said:
The picture in 720p still looks noisy in the highlight areas. The edges of things, say my mac book on the table, don't look sharp I still feel like I am getting the 4:1:1 signal being blown up on my T.V. I know it's hard to diagnose a problems if you can't really see what it's doing, words like not sharp can mean anything I know. But I am at the point of taking it back to the shop and saying plug it into one of your HD displays and tell me if there is something wrong with it.
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KNOW EXACTLY what your problme is.

I viewed HVX footy on my Uncles Bravia display, and it looked atrocious.

What swrong is the TV is set up wrong. chekc the "sharpness" Contrast, "noise reduction setting", thign sliek that. make sure the monitor isnt set up to like thoes crappy "Vivid" mode or something.

Throw color bars on the screen with the HVX, and adjust it liek a monitor. till you get a good approximation of what the bars should look like. i guarantee it will Look 100% better.
 
Thanks again for the feedback. I will give it a go tomorrow and let yall know how it went. I will also try and take a few pictures to let you all know how I am setting it up.
 
UtahDPDude said:
Thanks again for the feedback. I will give it a go tomorrow and let yall know how it went. I will also try and take a few pictures to let you all know how I am setting it up.
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So? What happened?
 
On the camera side, make sure the gain is at the lowest setting, no ND filters are in place, and open the iris up. Very basic suggestions...

I love my 47" Westinghouse for 1080 viewing. It is basically a big monitor with various inputs, and its cheap! (for a 47" LCD anyway). I have an XP Pro 64 bit computer that I use as a media server, and I can show footage to clients and investors.

Bob
 
Also...make sure that your TV actually has HD component input. Believe it or not, some TVs that have HDMI input don't have HD component enabled input. (they are just 480P inputs)
 
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