Please Help. I Only Copied The Mxf Video Files

I tried that an it wont open the files. I only copied over the mxf files not other information. I dont know if thats affecting whether or not it opens the other MXF files. I'll try again when i get home.

Thanks for the help
 
I did a bunch of tests with just video files this morning and p2 log.

never got it to display anything. you may be hosed as far as this app is concerned.
 
I Definitely copied the video mxf files. I opened that particular folder and copied them across. Just looking in one particular folder the sizes range from 312mb - 2.77Gb, so they are definitley big enough. I can't see what else i could have copied?
 
Avid Xpress Pro will read the mxf files alone and allow you to use them in avid. What I did a little while back was brought them into avid, exported as a quicktime ref file, then opened up that with Procoder 2 and exported the files out at mpeg 2 HD and took them into FCP after doing this. You won't notice much quality loss if you set everything right in Procoder, and that's your best bet. P2 Log doesn't recover the files because it needs the xml files in the clip folder do recover them. They claim it can rebuild the xml files but it doesn't work.
 
I haven't had to try this yet, but I believe the user guide for P2Log Pro (as opposed to the standard version of P2Log) indicates that the app will recreate the last clip file, if necessary. There is a command for repairing clips, which you have to use. The app does not do this automatically when you just try to open the clips.
 
I haven't had to try this yet, but I believe the user guide for P2Log Pro (as opposed to the standard version of P2Log) indicates that the app will recreate the last clip file, if necessary. There is a command for repairing clips, which you have to use. The app does not do this automatically when you just try to open the clips.
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I can't say for the full version, but I was using the Pro demo and the only thing it did was create a new contents folder with all the other folders in it but there was nothing else. The demo say's it will repair one clip, but I had no luck with it, maybe someone else has.
 
adamski said:
DC that is excellent!! Thankyou very much. I haven't tried it yet, i will do that when i get to work.

But you have detailed everything in en excellent step by step process. Wonderful!

. . . one more question. Do you know if this works the same on media composer, I'll sleep much better tonight knowing that you've heard of someone going through the same process you describe in media composer.
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No prob. I would imagine it would work the same on Media Composer but I have never personally tried it.
 
Adamski,
I selected the clip repair section, added the mxf, selected the framerate and it did its thing. The result is a new P2 build on the desktop with the lastclip text file. Then open the volume thru P2 and it should work. Its useful to know what framerate u shot at, I shot 50fps in Pal 720pn format so I selected 25p. Larger clips don't work as well thou. Anything under 2 gigs should be good.
 
I'll be glad when I get my P2 cards so that I can attempt to even remotely understand what you guys are getting into. So the HVX writes files to the P2 cards in whats called a .mxf file? And then you have to convert it to .mov files for a Mac or .avi files for PC's ? In order to edit with in realtime? I thought Canopus Edius and Avid Xpress Pro would play the P2 files in realtime. no? Sorry I sound so stupid about this, haven't got this far with the HVX yet.
 
Hi Rip Up,

i think it depends what you're going to edit your project in regards to what you do to the mxf files. The P2 card records a group of files in a folder called contents. The mistake i made was to go into the contents folder, then into the video folder within that and just pull out the mxf files without any of the other data that my edit system needs to interpret the mxf files. Just make sure you copy the whole contents folder and the file called lastclip.txt and you shouldn't have any problems (you will have covered yourself for use in most edit systems).

Well at least thats what i understand from the mistake i made.
 
I selected the clip repair section, added the mxf, selected the framerate and it did its thing. The result is a new P2 build on the desktop with the lastclip text file. Then open the volume thru P2 and it should work. Its useful to know what framerate u shot at, I shot 50fps in Pal 720pn format so I selected 25p. Larger clips don't work as well thou. Anything under 2 gigs should be good.
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kenbostero, did this also rebuild the clip folder with the xml files in it? If so did you try and import the files into FCP, because without those files in the clip folder FCP won't import anything, it will just show a p2 volume, and when you import you get nothing. Just wanting to know before I look into purchacing P2 Log Pro. The repair function is the only thing I have been looking for also.
thanks
 
ripupthehwy said:
And then you have to convert it to .mov files for a Mac or .avi files for PC's ? In order to edit with in realtime? I thought Canopus Edius and Avid Xpress Pro would play the P2 files in realtime. no? Sorry I sound so stupid about this, haven't got this far with the HVX yet.
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You don't have to convert the files for the PC to edit them, only the Mac still requires conversion. With the PC you can get Raylight for Vegas or Premiere to allow importing MXFs, and the other programs handle them natively.

I have high hopes (no reason to hope, no inside info, only "it's the right thing to do" hopes) for FCP6 to be introduced at NAB with native MXF support. It would be "the right thing to do."
 
Yep, and Avid edits native MXF files. No conversion needed. All you need are the MXF files from the Video and Audio folders.
 
Thanks Barry and Adamski

Since I am a PC guy, im down to choosing between Premiere, Edius, or Avid. Unless Adobe plans on some great improvements at NAB, then I've already narrowed my choices down to Avid or Canopus. (Using Premiere right now)
 
kenbostero, did this also rebuild the clip folder with the xml files in it? If so did you try and import the files into FCP, because without those files in the clip folder FCP won't import anything, it will just show a p2 volume, and when you import you get nothing. Just wanting to know before I look into purchacing P2 Log Pro. The repair function is the only thing I have been looking for also.
thanks

After the clip is repaired it creates a new volume containing the contents and lastclip file, I then opened again thru P2 log pro and unwrapped the files. After that I just tend to import the QT directly into FCP without the xml file and that works just fine. Either way I can't recommend P2 log pro enough, it saved a hour of priceless footage.
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kenbostero said:
Either way I can't recommend P2 log pro enough, it saved a hour of priceless footage.
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Thanks Ken. That was our intention. let me clear a couple things up...

1. The 2 GB limit has been "fixed". Download the app again and get 2.1 that corrects this little problem.
2. We do indeed recreate lastclip.txt files AND the XML files. To do this, you must open the P2 Volume and resave it.
3. If all you have are the MXF files, you have to use the Repair function which of course will build XML and lastclip.txt files too.
4. We do not create the bitmaps, so sometimes people think repaired clips are not there to run as the image area is blank.

If all you've done is tossed the other P2 volume info, the repair function should work great. If your video files are damaged some other way, P2LogPro may or maynot be able to help. However, we've been able to help nearly everyone with problems.

For the gentleman having trouble with the demo, I'm guessing either he expected to be able to Open the volume with only MXF files which P2LogPro will not because it's not a valid P2 Volume. OR, he may have had a problem with his applications folder and/or TEMP folder being locked, or the temp folder missing...these conditions will not allow the QT pointers to be created to play the clips and may interfere with the temporary file processing.

Last... I'd like to inform everyone that HD Log 4.0 is releasing this week. It will boast all the P2 Log Pro functions PLUS batch conversion of MXF folders in repair mode. Also, fully integrated copy & auto-naming batch functions for moving clips off of cards, or P2 Store or FireStore etc. (Think P2 Genie on steroids.) The Gold version is also fully integrated with the Quantum SDLT tape drives.
 
Hi Dan,

i tried using the demo of P2Log Pro as i only had the MXF files. Once it said it had repaired the clip i tried to view it in FCP and nothing happened, i'm a little unsure about buying the app if its not going to rebuild the p2 volumes from the mxf files so that they are viewable.
 
Exactly the same problem I had, Dan seemed to ignore me before so I wouldn't be so quick to buy it.

Dan, I had the whole P2 volume with all the folders, the MXF files with both the video and audio were in their folders, but there wasn't any XML files in the clip folder, after I did the repair there were still no XML files in the new folder, that is why FCP does nothing. The demo claims to repair one file, didn't work for me either so that's why I didn't buy it. You are claiming that with only the MXF files you can rebuild everything else, but above your saying P2 Log Pro can't do it, I don't really understand, please explain this to me.
 
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The demo's Repair Wizard will repair one clip, not volume.

You can also open a volume, but only the first clip is shown.

We do not let you save (overwrite) an open volume in the demo --which is what's needed for the application to create new XML and lastclip.txt files. If they're present, it checks and updates them. If not there, it will make them new.

Sorry if you think I ignored you. I do not check on this forum frequently.

The software does work, and we're happy to assist paying customers in reclaiming their files, regardless of the problem. Isn't that the objective?
 
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