Canon HV20

Zak Forsman said:
i don't know how useful this is. probably not at all considering the compression, but here is some footage i shot when i first bought the HV10 a month ago. it blows away anything comparable in its class. [link]
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I remember seeing it, Zak. HV10 rocks. I put up the Canon test because it's got 720p and 1080 versions.
 
Canon is pulling a Panasonic here, and Panasonic is pulling a Sony, they should have had the HDC-DVX100 replacement out by now, and it should be rocking, instead we have Canon waking up and giving us the A1 and now this little cutie. Harummmph.
 
i feel like panasonic is going to release something Rad in the next year. it may be too late, but still.....
 
Ok and now tell me what quality I get thru HDMI output on my hardrive???
- Full 1920 x 1080 I hope
- but at what fps?
- 8, 10, 12 bits?
- 4:2:2, 4:4:4?
- raw, rgb, mpeg2 or what?

Hope there will be some way cheaper devices kind of Firestore with 2,5 HDD or now more and more cheaper Flash harddrives
and expresscards or laptops with HDMI.

I was thinking of hack this camcorder and rip off built in lenses and add some mount for interchangeable lenses
instead of using lens convertors. ;D
 
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If you look at how Canon releases new technology on the still side of the house, you know that new sensors and features always get rolled out in consumer models first.

The still images we capture with our 1D series are vastly superior to anything we can get with our H1/A1 chips, and in low light the difference is so vast a comparison isn't even fair.

The 1Ds has a phenomenal CMOS chips, full frame 35mm, 17mp, 4992 x 3328 max resolution, and this sensor is two years old. If I could have 24p with the chip in my 1Ds mkII, wow.

Since Canon has a great track record with still sensors and single chip glass, there is no reason for them not to be looking at unified sensor R&D and production for both still and motion cameras.

I think this camera is a sneak peek at Canon's future product path. With Canon's market penetration in both professional video and still market, their continuing R&D, the size of their R&D budget, and the obvious growing interest in DOF adapters and digital cinema, all I can say is that Red could be dead, and Arri and Panavision should be worried.
 
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AuditoryVisuals said:
Live output: 60i, 12 bits I think, 4:2:2, RGB.
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But if 24p is used, is it preserved within the 60i stream on HDMI output? If not, the utility of HDMI is somewhat diminished.
 
Yes, it's preserved the same way 24F is preserved in the 1080 60i SDI output of the XL-H1 and XH-G1.
 
You will probably get 4:2:2-ish 1080/60i (or 24p within 60i) at 8 bits of actual image data. The XLH1 outputs a 10-bit HDSDI signal but only 8 bits are used, the last two bits are forced to 0. I believe the Sony V1 operates the same way with its HDMI.
 
Hey, anyone know if the HV20 could be hooked up to a Redrock Micro? That would be a gas. In theory, for less than $2500.00, you could have a 24p HDV cam with a cine/35mm still lens adapter. Wouldn't this be cool? Anybody think/know if this combo would work? Anyone? Bueller?
 
Gordon Prince said:
What does it mean? Can we go with the 24p (or with the 25p) with the Blackmagic Intensity?

These card specs just say: 1080i !! Not 1080/24p (or 25p)...

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/
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It means the progressive material is contained within the 1080i format, just like 24p from the DVX is carried within the DV 60i container. There are redundant fields for 1080i standards compatibility, but there is a true 24p cadence that can be extracted by software if you're savvy enough.
 
Darth Bunnykins said:
Hey, anyone know if the HV20 could be hooked up to a Redrock Micro? That would be a gas. In theory, for less than $2500.00, you could have a 24p HDV cam with a cine/35mm still lens adapter. Wouldn't this be cool? Anybody think/know if this combo would work? Anyone? Bueller?
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Who is Bueller? My name is Emanuel! :laugh: :)

Here is the half of the answer to your plead:

LINK
 
Elton said:
It means the progressive material is contained within the 1080i format, just like 24p from the DVX is carried within the DV 60i container. There are redundant fields for 1080i standards compatibility, but there is a true 24p cadence that can be extracted by software if you're savvy enough.
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But reading the Blackmagic Intensity specs:

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/techspecs/

Where's the 24p, 25p etc?
 
Barry_Green said:
You will probably get 4:2:2-ish 1080/60i (or 24p within 60i) at 8 bits of actual image data. The XLH1 outputs a 10-bit HDSDI signal but only 8 bits are used, the last two bits are forced to 0. I believe the Sony V1 operates the same way with its HDMI.
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I believe that, at least in part, what limits the V1 to 8 bits is that the HDMI implementation is, from what I've read, version 1.2, which supports only up to 24-bit RGB.
 
does that hmdi card allow for uncompressed capture?

what about color space?


can this work also for the A1?
 
Hey, this little babe looks awesome. I alrady liked the HV10 a lot. Now with true progressive and cine preset! If you can mess around with the presets like with the A1 it's going to be heaven. I guess asking for an XLR port would have been too much (this could have been the PDX10 of HD). I would have this as a backup cam for my A1 without a doubt.
 
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