work in progress music video

It all depends on what your trying to do in the long run, I'm not saying that music video directors should all give them up, I was just saying that for me what I really want to do is make features and sink or swim thats what I'm going to do. Keep it crunk baby.
 
gunleik said:
As for the bounce... I must admit... I sorta like it. (Ouch)
probably too much and not always precise, but it is a visual hook that makes me remember it.

Gave me an association. Have you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzqumbhfxRo

No real similarities, but this is great:
Sampled images! -;)

Cheers!

Gunleik
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lol, pretty good that one :o) interesting too. :oS
 
http://web.mac.com/steadiworkz/iWeb/Site/clips.html

Ok heres the intro with first verse, i've cut down on the bounce and added motion blur as suggested (thanks Ben). The bounce is so much better with motion blur you should try it to see the difference (FCP peeps).

I've noticed also the editing was a bit slack (late nights) and had plenty people say the verses are boring with no change of scene. I think the first verse gets away with no scene change but I will be changing the middle verses by adding in pole dancing shots.

any thoughts welcome as ever !
 
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Me like.
Bumps are rather functional now - I think

Curious about the girls face in the first shot, is it blurred out in the mirror, or is it just shadows & web-compression doing their dirty deeds?

Gunleik
 
well spotted, the original shot was almost pitch black so I bumped up the curves in AE and de-grained to get it looking half decent. I should realy re shoot if I get chance.

The record company are looking for me to shoot more scenes to cut in, so i gess it's all gona change again.

If only I could pay the fecking rent next month it wouldn't be a problem.
 
I think the concept is fine. I like the bumps better, first verse looks good. Intro and first verse could still be better. You just need to take more footage.

You only shoot them at the table in the first verse; in the intro the camera never cuts. What about close-ups?

- Close-up of sink/water/hands
- Close-up on face/cell phone
- different angles on mirror/girl
- etc... then use it to mix in and give variety

First verse:

- close-ups of other people at the table mixed in
- hands on glasses/bear/bling
- cut to girls, short clips 0.5-2 seconds-ish

you've got the jumping, but not jumping to different scenes or areas or items. Your editing has a good rhythm and flow, its just even with the cuts you need more variety in location and detail.

Also, change your angles up a bit. The steadicam is great, image quality great, location great. But you could do more than just keeping the camera at normal standing height. Try a low shot on the girls panning up, or more extreme close-ups anywhere, etc.

Watch a handful of rap videos and study their cuts, angles, footage taken, etc. There is just a whole lot more happening.


That said, the video is well done for what it is in regards to the jump cuts, bounce effect, smooth camera, good image quality, etc. These are just suggestions to make it look better and more like what you see from the pro's... and I think you can do it!

Just get more shots and coverage. Better to have way too much stuff that just has to be left on the cutting room floor then be wishing you had more footage. I always over-shoot, and have enough left over footage that I could also make a second version of any video with the left over clips!!
 
All valid points on to be honest it's stuff I would have/should have done given more time and planning on the original shoot.
The reason i'm thinking of a re-shoot is that i've learnt alot from editing this with minimal footage and it's put ideas in my head for how i'd rarther have done things. I think in one day shoot I could film a hole new improved concept rarther than just some extra scenes to cut in with the original. Also I won't be able to get the same location again for free and with the same girls who work random rotas.
I'm having a meeting with the guys about improving the video as we neva even got chance to have a creative meeting about the shoot in the first place.
I'll keep yal posted on developments and thanks for the input and encouragement filmguy :)
 
No prob 4mat. Just as a thought - is your client a paying customer? Have you showed him what you have? He may be very happy with the way the video is, and if so, you may lose a lot of money by doing a reshoot.

While I give feedback for what can make it better, it certainly is not bad! Your client may be very pleased for all you know. Make sure it is worth what it will cost you to reshoot/redit (both in time and cost of acquing actors, location, etc.)

Good luck and let us see what happens if you end up doing another shoot!
 
To be honest nobodies happy with the footage, the artists arnt happy with their performances, the record company don't think it's as good as the last video I did for them and I felt I was rushed into prepping the shoot and agree with all of the above.
Everybody likes the quality of the footage don't get me wrong it's just lacking that certain something that will make it a hit.
If this was quick turn around and I was just in it for the money then yeah i'd run a mile from a re-shoot, I have in the past.
The problem is that because the last single/video turned out so good and got quite a bit of media attention, this video needs to be better.
I'm not hoping to make a trend of this but the last video was a re-shoot and it really benefitted from the mistakes we made with the original concept.
Will post a new thread entitled second time lucky probably lol.
 
The band is noteworthy. If you can afford it (or the record company), do what you have to.

Gunleik
 
4mat you have numbers and i think you fell into the client rush trap. I second filmguy you need to cut with different angles but you are the first to know you need more footage.
I'll wait to see your new edit after the reshooting.
In the meanwhile, can you tell me how you crop for 2:35:1? With tape on the monitor? Is it a precise measurement or not?
 
Schmovies production said:
can you tell me how you crop for 2:35:1? With tape on the monitor? Is it a precise measurement or not?
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The MK-V Hummingbird monitor I use has a built in frameline generator that draws the 2:35 frame on the 16:9 image. http://www.mk-v.com/monitors.htm
I've also been on feature film sets where a peice of black gaffa tape does the job just as well :)
This link explains pretty well what 2:35:1 means http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/aspect-ratios-explained-part-two.html
 
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