xh-a1 barry book request!

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Barry, I have learned quite a bit about my hvx200 and video in general from you and I would be delighted if you might consider putting together a book on the xh-a1. From what I can tell it looks like there are quite a few hvx users getting the canon as well or swithching over. Most of us like the images from both cameras quite a bit and from reading your posts on the xh-a1 I gather that you like the camera as well... So tell us what we need to do to get an xh-a1 book from you!!
 
I spent a week with it to see what I thought, and it's a nice cam. Right now it has buzz, but it's got to enter a deathmatch against the Sony V1U. It takes months and months to do one of those books, the HVX book took about seven months, so I don't want to bet on the wrong horse. Once upon a time I was going to do one for the XL2, but while it was a fine camera, it was a sales dog and would have been the wrong choice.

The A1 looks promising, but if the Sony sells 10x or 20x as many as the A1, then I'd be better off doing one for the Sony... :)

Plus, there's some very intense/involved video productions coming up in the next few months that are really going to be taxing my time, so -- I don't quite know yet. I'm sitting back and watching how it all plays out.
 
So barry what are your thoughts of the A1 vs the HVX...or is it just apple vs oranges to really give a good comparison?
 
i add my claim.. and my purchase if available wherever.. canon or sony.. but not on panasonic stuff.. at least, while they're delivering their chips for hd capture devices with 500.000 pixels.. pixel shi*ing or not.. :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
 
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Barry_Green said:
The A1 looks promising, but if the Sony sells 10x or 20x as many as the A1, then I'd be better off doing one for the Sony... :)
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..Thats nice but I own the A1. Thats reason enough to choose the canon without ever even testing the sony! :) What about throwing caution to the wind and just writing a book on whichever camera(after you spend a week with the sony) you like better?

-I have been around this board for awhile but had never posted until recently so may I just add my thanks to you for taking your time to keep us all informed. Just want to give credit where it is due -keep up the good work.
 
nthd said:
What about throwing caution to the wind and just writing a book on whichever camera(after you spend a week with the sony) you like better?
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Problem is, it takes a good six months to do one. And there are a lot of other things coming up, which as time goes by you'll all be hearing more about, so time is limited. I mean, it's gotta be worth doing or... or, well, it's not worth doing! :)
-I have been around this board for awhile but had never posted until recently so may I just add my thanks to you for taking your time to keep us all informed. Just want to give credit where it is due -keep up the good work.
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Thanks!
 
Not to change the subject, but are some of those good things forward movement on your project with JDS? I am really excited to follow that process. It should be a great learning experience for many of us to follow a good user film thread on your guys project from beginning phases on to release.

Jason
 
That's primarily what I mean when I say that other things are consuming time too. Not just that particular project, but lots of other things too. .. :thumbsup:
 
I look forward to this Barry very much, however the HVX up against the Canon's CCD block/Digic combo is no different then what the Texas shootout and the LA shootout you did demonstrated . The A1 actually is slightly better because of adjustments to firmware and technological know how gained in over a year since the H1 came out. That's just progress. So this test, cool as it will be, will only substantiate the results that the big shoot outs did months ago. The core image of the A1 and H1 are the same. The Lens on the A1 has been improved over the 20x XLH1 lens, so this will add some level of percentage in quality gains for the A1. Still, this test will still tell us nothing new. My former HVX is awesome, and it has an image that is it's own and does things that H1/A1 doesn't do. On the flip side the HVX can't generate as dense an image that the A1/H1 can. The color from the HVX is rich and dense. The H1/A1 comes out more flat, however it can be adjusted, of-course still never quite the color that the HVX can achieve. Now that doesn't say that the canon color is worse, it's just not like the HVX. It's has it's own way of seeing things. These cameras are all great compared to just three years ago, but then again we feel the need to reaffirm their positions in this over inflated camera war..... That said, however over done I think this subject is, I will be one of the first to read the article with great interest...


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Barry_Green said:
I sent the first draft to Jarred, but I've got to finish up the photos and side-by-sides, so... maybe next week?
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I look forward to this Barry very much, however the HVX up against the Canon's CCD block/Digic combo is no different then what the Texas shootout and the LA shootout you did demonstrated .
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Well, that was a large part of what needed to be tested. Just because they claim that it's the same, does that mean that it *is* the same? (and yes, it pretty much is although I think the A1 is probably a tad more sensitive).

The A1 actually is slightly better because of adjustments to firmware and technological know how gained in over a year since the H1 came out. That's just progress. So this test, cool as it will be, will only substantiate the results that the big shoot outs did months ago. The core image of the A1 and H1 are the same. The Lens on the A1 has been improved over the 20x XLH1 lens, so this will add some level of percentage in quality gains for the A1. Still, this test will still tell us nothing new. My former HVX is awesome, and it has an image that is it's own and does things that H1/A1 doesn't do. On the flip side the HVX can't generate as dense an image that the A1/H1 can. The color from the HVX is rich and dense. The H1/A1 comes out more flat, however it can be adjusted, of-course still never quite the color that the HVX can achieve. Now that doesn't say that the canon color is worse, it's just not like the HVX. It's has it's own way of seeing things. These cameras are all great compared to just three years ago, but then again we feel the need to reaffirm their positions in this over inflated camera war..... That said, however over done I think this subject is, I will be one of the first to read the article with great interest...
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Exactly. I mean, you just stole a lot of my thunder. It's basically the same results as before, only now we're at a different price point for both products. And instead of the other articles where we had nothing but charts, here I focused on going out and getting a lot of side-by-side daylight/"real world" shots... and I thought that the results were somewhat surprising.

But my angle for this article was different than what we've done before. Last time we wanted to find out how the cameras performed. This time we know that general imaging performance is going to be basically the same (although I was a bit surprised at just how close they both were) so I explored aspects other than just imaging too. Price point and controls and comparison to the DVX and HVX and other HDV cameras, all that comes into it.
 
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