HD-SDI external recorder device?

The problem i have with cineform is that there product does totaly rock, However there pricing is a big noose round my neck.
1st of all the codec is great but if i were to use it i would need one copy for the computer i capture with cos that would either be a laptop when its possibal. Or a semi portable computer, another copy for the computer i use to edit with, and another copy for the guy who does all cgi stuff, thats 2 copys of Prospect.
And get this. Cos of the price of the ingest version i would have to capture raw then convert the footage using the normal version of Prospect. Oh and it gets even better, i would like to shoot 3d soon and that would mean i need two pc`s on set with 2 copys of prospect , cos thereis no way iwill capture raw data with 2 computers side buy side. I hope one day Cineform will give agressive discounts to customers who buy more than one copy of there software.
 
I emailed Focus Enhancements and asked them if they were ever going to make an HD-SDI FireStore. They said the following:

Currently we do not support SDI with Firestore FS-4 family products. I sent your request to our Firestore product manager. We have received this request before, but the volume of requests helps him to gauge end user interest as we plan future products and features.


They treat me like I didn't know they didn't have an HD-SDI FireStore. So I guess everyone should email them.
 
who will announce it he's who we'd like to present the feature and to who we've been asking for..

it'll rock sure it'll rock.. in my humble opinion it'll be so useful for the affordable HD like it has been all the 1/3 cameras we know.. but i'd say still more than that..

amazing days nowadays..
 
I doubt it would be a converter box, but a laptop SDI card with their software combined with the AJA converter would basically give you the signal the G1 offers, but no timecode, which is fairly important.
 
Barlow, it seems we will know sooner but this is what I'd label as the best nouvelle since the A1/G1 announcement.
 
I just hope they announce it when it's ready to go. I'm sick of big announcements and long delays.
 
filmmaker1977 said:
who will announce it he's who we'd like to present the feature and to who we've been asking for..

it'll rock sure it'll rock.. in my humble opinion it'll be so useful for the affordable HD like it has been all the 1/3 cameras we know.. but i'd say still more than that..

amazing days nowadays..
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Any news filmmaker
 
David Newman said:
Maybe soon. What is missing is a HDSDI capture solution for PCExpress (the new laptop PC-Card format.) Then you would be about to capture CineForm 10-bit to a very fast laptop (maybe a Merom 2.33Ghz system.) We are looking into it. SI uses gigE so that doesn't need HDSDI.
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David i asume you know Scott Billups, Iam not shure if you know him personally or not, but he has had the ability to capture hd on his g4 laptop.
and this is i rekon 2 or 3 years ago.
http://www.pixelmonger.com/article/Krak.pdf
he is using a pinicle systems cinewave HD card on a magma chassis. At the time he was using an external raid, but i rekon with todays technology the sata Raid drives could be enclosed in the magma case. Would love to know your thoughts and any one elses thoughts regarding what scott billups system. and why we cant have some thing similar with todays technology?
 
We aren't stop others from experimenting, but for a market appeal a ExpressCard solution would be much cleaner. I'm fairly sure PCI-E extended box would work, but a shuttle PC with a Xena card would be easier.
 
Yes, of course that is what we are doing with the SI-2K camera today (via GigE.) The issue for these new Canon camera is the need for a small form-factor HDSDI input to go into the laptop. CineForm software would work well once the hardware is available.
 
David Newman said:
Yes, of course that is what we are doing with the SI-2K camera today (via GigE.) The issue for these new Canon camera is the need for a small form-factor HDSDI input to go into the laptop. CineForm software would work well once the hardware is available.
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David you talk about a totaly portable solution, well as far as i know 99% of laptops ,when they are running on there internal batterys actually decrease their cpu clock speed. Now does si 2k capturing system suffer from this problem?
 
You can turn that feature off to get the fall performance on a battery operated laptop. We have done this with Dell M90s, you still get over an hour battery life.
 
David Newman said:
You can turn that feature off to get the fall performance on a battery operated laptop. We have done this with Dell M90s, you still get over an hour battery life.
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So i guess the limiting factor now is the battery life? Would not want the laptop powering down in the middle of a Take.

David another thing i wanted to know was regarding Prospect Ingest.
Now would i need to have premiere pro running on my computer to capture footage via sdi or is ingest a seperate program which alows me to capture footage without the need to run premiere?
 
Prospect HD is a Premiere acceleration tool that support HDSDI capture and editing. We don't have a standalone HDSDI capture utility that operates outside of Premiere (yet) -- well other than the Wafian HR-1.
 
David Newman said:
Prospect HD is a Premiere acceleration tool that support HDSDI capture and editing. We don't have a standalone HDSDI capture utility that operates outside of Premiere (yet) -- well other than the Wafian HR-1.
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The only reason iam asking is that if some of us wanted to bulid our own hdsdi capture systems, a stand alone capture system would be useful, it means we can use a very small monitor just to keep an eye on the capture process.
Any chance sometime in the future we could have that option. the way i look at it, if you make your software acsessble to the end user as much as possibal, CineForm will have a stronger market share.
 
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