Projecting HVX200 film

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platinumseagulls

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I'm looking for a HD projector to show my new film that I shot on my HVX200. Any advice on output to the highest rez for a large audience? Thanks!
 
I want to hear replies to this as well. I always hear about what a "film out" image looks like. But what about digital projection? How does a digitally projected prosumer dv image compare to a filmed out one?
 
Logic dictates that good digital projection is going to be superior to a film out if the source origionated digitally. Why do you think Lucas keeps trying to get everyone to switch to digital projection?
 
If a DV project is shot with film out in mind and if the film out is accomplished correctly, it can be a much better viewing experience than any digital projection. If it wasn't shot with film out in mind, then it might not be as true of statement.

I would recommend doing a short test (most film out houses have a 2 - 3 minute test rate). The cost to get to an answer print from a DV source are considerable ($350 - $450 per running minute) so don't just jump into it blindly.
 
not sure what make/model it was (although I think Evin said it was worth around $11k), but the projector they used at the NYC Boot Camp yielded eyepopping results . . .
 
khmuse said:
If a DV project is shot with film out in mind and if the film out is accomplished correctly, it can be a much better viewing experience than any digital projection. If it wasn't shot with film out in mind, then it might not be as true of statement.
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Could you expand upon this? Digital projection is what's going to make something shot digitally look best. That's what all the big boys want. I really don't understand how a film out which, by its very nature, is a very destructive process (usually reducing the 3200 possible lines of a 35mm negative to only 810 when projected on average), could someone achieve better results than digital projection which is designed from the ground up to work with the digital signal and keep all that's there intact.
 
In a lot of digital projection, you can still see faint gridlines around the pixels. This was true even of my viewing of Star Wars Episode III. Oftentimes, the projector just doesn't handle highlights and shadows are truly as film. Of course, your mileage may vary.

A film out of the same images would result is a fuller image without gridlines. Since it's film, it'll have truer blacks and truer highlights, with full brightness.
 
Technically, absolutely.

HD projectors have component inputs, which you can connect to the D4 connector on the camera. However, the cable that Panasonic supplies is going to cost you a little bit of quality because it ends in RCA jacks, to which you must then connect BNC converters.
 
DavidBeier said:
Could you expand upon this? Digital projection is what's going to make something shot digitally look best. That's what all the big boys want. I really don't understand how a film out which, by its very nature, is a very destructive process (usually reducing the 3200 possible lines of a 35mm negative to only 810 when projected on average), could someone achieve better results than digital projection which is designed from the ground up to work with the digital signal and keep all that's there intact.
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Your question seems to rely upon the assumption that resolution alone is what determines the film viewing experience. Remember, I was stating for a digital acquired set of images (read shot on DV), film out can be a better experience for the viewer. By better I am attempting to get to a film like, narrative look, not an HD look. I and a number of others have gone this route and most report a considerable improvement in the look of the product.

I have no objections to the use digital in the production/post/presentation chain (a lot of films have a DI in there work flow) but for DV footage, film out really helps. If you haven't compared film out to theatrical digital projection side by side, I suggest that you endeavor to make the comparison, it is clearly different.
 
In a lot of digital projection, you can still see faint gridlines around the pixels. This was true even of my viewing of Star Wars Episode III. Oftentimes, the projector just doesn't handle highlights and shadows are truly as film. Of course, your mileage may vary.

A film out of the same images would result is a fuller image without gridlines. Since it's film, it'll have truer blacks and truer highlights, with full brightness.
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I understand the gridline argumetn but the rest doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Unless we are talking about some crappy projectors the levels and light and black that you got in the camera should certainly be able to be reproduced by a digital projector. Perhaps not for a film origional but certainly for most digital origionals.
 
I'd love to tranfer to 35mm, but I can't even afford catering that includes bagels.
What's the point shooting with the hvx200 if i can't project a better image than projecting an author DVD from a DVX? I just wanna know what people recommend for HD projectors that would work well with the hvx200. thanks.
 
Projector with HVX..

Projector with HVX..

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I have a HVX and have projected stuff with a Panasonic AE-900 HD projector and it looked amazing. There is a new UX100 or something that is basically the same that is higher lumen. I have no need to do filmout, just want the best looking stuff for home display (for clients) and decent future usability (therefore shooting on HD as opposed to SD)
 
I've hooked my HVX straight into a Christie 2K projector and it looked amazing in 720p. I guess it really wasn't straight in because I went through the Cine IPM box that then went to the projector. The screens I showed it on were 40' wide.
 
Wow. Why did this turn into a filmout question?

How big is the audience? Are you in a theater or in a decent sized ballroom?

You don't even need an "HD" projector. Find one with a VGA in, get a good playback program (Quicktime or Windows Media Player classic with codecs) and play it back from a nice laptop, dude.

Next step up is getting a Projector with DVI/HDMI in and a laptop/pc with DVI out and projecting it. Just render the highest quality file you can and project that.

I wouldn't project from the camera at all.
 
If it's 300-500 people you want to make sure that it's got a decent contrast level and a bright bulb. Before you go to show it, put it up on the screen and do a test run, tweak the contrast and the options for the best results and picture.

Let me know if you need anymore help.
 
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