Questions for Jim & Graeme

S

SF Geek

Active member
I was wondering how it's possible to make a viewfinder 720p. Can you put that high resolution on that small of a screen? Also, do you have plans for a plug into the camera that would allow for paint box type access and manipulation for those instances when we won't be shooting RAW? This question might sound stupid, but could I use a waveform to get an accurate reading if I'm shooting RAW? I don't really use a light meter any more. The waveform is my new tool of measurement. One last thing, I know you had plans to explain how all of these acccessories, red cage and rail attach without screws. Any insight into these would be greatly appreciated.
 
maxmobility.jpg

See that lovely little thing in the upper left. That's a 720P viewfinder.
Gonna cost you more $. But I'd bet it's worth every penny.
The paint/matrix setting will most likely be available in camera but to a lesser extent. This is conjecture, but I'd hazard a guess that quite a lot of control will be available both out of the camera and in post.
 
I think his question was how it's possible to cram 720 pixels onto a teeny EVF screen, not what will the EVF actually look like.

I believe they have mentioned the LCD (OLED?) panel that ships with the camera is a minimum of 720p as well.
 
Yes, EVF is 720p, and should look super-sweet indeed. Painting controls in camera are limited to "primary" colour correction. We are not offering "secondary" type controls as they're of limited value in camera, but really come into their own in an NLE or DI suite. So yes, you'll be able to alter primary settings, store them, retrieve them, etc. etc.

Waveform / histogram will help get bang-on exposure, even in shooting raw.

Graeme
 
At IBC the screen and the EVF were verified by RED as being planned at 720p. Nano LCoS technology enables small EVF-sized 720p screens (and higher res), although RED has not stated what technology will be in the EVF screen. RED has not verified what technology the monitor screen will be - LCD, SED, LCoS, OLED, or something new.

Gibby
RED #8
www.cut4.tv
www.4umat.com
 
Waveform / histogram will help get bang-on exposure, even in shooting raw.
Click to expand...

Besides, I think we should be able to expose as we do with film, no? Using a light meter and knowing the latitude of the sensor...

At least I hope we can shoot 4K raw as we shoot film, since it would make much easier, life without calibrated 4K monitors...

But an inegrated waveform/histogram is a VERY SWEET IDEA indeed!!!
 
I don't think you need a light meter - just the waveform, histogram and focus assist in the EVF. They'll tell you all you need to know, live with real accurate data from the sensor. And yes, I think RGB parade is in the specs too.

Graeme
 
Graeme_Nattress said:
I don't think you need a light meter - just the waveform, histogram and focus assist in the EVF. They'll tell you all you need to know, live with real accurate data from the sensor.
Click to expand...

Where's the fun in that???

Tape measures and Light Meters, it's the future!

Besides, you'd put Minolta out of business. 't'aint cricket mate.
 
a light meter might not be used to set exact exposure. A light meter will still be used to light sets & exteriors . you'll still tell a gaffer to set the key light at 100ft candles ( or if using ASA 400 - F4 ) and fill in at 25ft candles/F2 etc.

what happened to Minolta's light meter's .. i was just going to buy another one last week and i found they stopped making them !!!
 
donatello said:
what happened to Minolta's light meter's .. i was just going to buy another one last week and i found they stopped making them !!!
Click to expand...

Really?? News to me.

Carry on Graeme, apparently Minolta no longer care that you're about to put them out of business.

:Drogar-Dum(DBG):
 
Well, given the tools in the camera, you could have a spare camera for the gaffer to use as a light meter! :-) A rather expensive light meter though....

Graeme
 
Sounds great Graeme. Having a waveform and histogram in camera really helps me have all my tools in a run and gun situation. Plus it saves me money on accessories. Thanks! Do you guys know what kind of focus assist you want to use? Is it peaking or that color system that JVC uses, I've never tried the latter? By the way what's LCoS and OLED. I've never heard of those technologies.
 
Hei Kjetil. Hvor holder du til?

Have you ever done CC'ing in f. ex FinalCut Po?
You have the vectroscope, waveform monitor and RGB parade.
While the waveform monitor gives you an indication of highlits, the waveform monitor breaks down the info to the red, blue and green channels and their left to right orientation in the image. Thus you can see if all the areas around the subject are properly green.

Sorta...

Gunleik
 
Kjetil Haugen said:
What does the RGB parade do? And why does it help with greenscreen?
Click to expand...

RGB parade just breaks out a waveform into individual color channels. This is important for greenscreen because you need to make sure you are getting the proper amount of separation between the channels. The greater the differential between green and the two other channels the better. Maybe more importantly though, your greenscreen needs to be lit at a certain level. The level at which your greenscreen appears to be lit when viewing in a waveform is actually quite different than the individual green color channel in the RGB parade which often results in underexposing your greenscreen.
 
gunleik said:
Hei Kjetil. Hvor holder du til?

Have you ever done CC'ing in f. ex FinalCut Po?
You have the vectroscope, waveform monitor and RGB parade.
While the waveform monitor gives you an indication of highlits, the waveform monitor breaks down the info to the red, blue and green channels and their left to right orientation in the image. Thus you can see if all the areas around the subject are properly green.

Sorta...

Gunleik
Click to expand...

Er fra Oslo. Flott at nordmenn tar i et tak her inne!

Cool. So you'll be able to see specific parts of the frame where the greenscreen is not doing it's job and correct it... Something like that?

Looks like the RED has thought of everything.
 
Are these tools standard stuff in most cameras these days or are these bonus features from RED. Seems there's alot of nice tools out there I havn't taken advantage of...

Thanks for the reply
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top