Anyone Interested in a DV Rack like app for MAC?
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CaptainSKA
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Probably because you didn't read this statement...Spartacus said:
I understand it was easy to miss... being the first statement he made and all. Or maybe it was difficult to understand since it was directly answering the question of "When will this be available?"bena said:
But hey, thanks for showing maturity by making fun of a word I chose to use... gave me a chuckle in an otherwise busy day...
peter orland
Well-known member
No. But for some things , like shooting live band gigs, it is easier and quicker to capture straight to the macbook.bena said:
bena said:
For me personally, having a HD version of DV Monitor wouldn't dictate whether or not to capture to P2 or the Lappy, the job and the type of shooting would.
But, if like you asked Spartacus "Would you be happy with a High Def version of DV Monitor as it is now? Would that hold you over until we can finish our other products?" Then that would be great, as I could use it for the moment with the HVX as a field monitor with flip facility and Zebra etc...If that was available now, and works, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it at your current pricing.
For me, the ability to capture into one of these software solutions (your's, Dv Rack) isn't that big a deal, Final Cut does a more than adequate job of capturing directly into the NLE that we use for editing. I can understand that for the PC users, something like the DV Rack with the ability to capture to the hard drive, and with all it's other excellent features, would be a great piece of kit. If I was set up on the PC side I would have already bought it.
But you guys are developing a product that runs on the MAC, and us Mac users with FCP can already capture (admittedly with not as many features - waveform etc...) to the computer...so..?
If your product eventually ends up like a Mac version of DV Rack with all the same type of features - capture, monitor, scopes etc, then that will be great and it should sell well. But for now, if you are holding back releasing a version that can be used with HD for monitoring until you have all the other pieces in place, then I think you are losing potential customers right now, me for one.
Thanks
Spartacus
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bena said:
Actually I´m more interested in the recording option right now, but the decision for HD Monitor in the long run would probably be the monitoring, just like Peter stated, since the FCP update would solve the PAL recording problem for me (not tested yet of course, but expected to work...).
Do you think, you would offer a Monitor only solution sans the recording option, for those who want to record with FCP?
Do you see any advantages of recording with your product over recording with FCP?
I don't think you can have 2 apps sharing the same Video stream at the same time, so that might cause an issue with trying to monitor with our software and recording direct to disk with FCP at the same time.
Now it might be possible for us to let go of the video stream when our App is not the foreground app. No promises, we can look into it.
At least you would be able to get critical focus and exposure, then switch to FCP for D2D, until we have the all in one solution ready.
Now it might be possible for us to let go of the video stream when our App is not the foreground app. No promises, we can look into it.
At least you would be able to get critical focus and exposure, then switch to FCP for D2D, until we have the all in one solution ready.
Lente Loco Studios
Active member
I think this should be A Must Have Option
I think this should be A Must Have Option
Recording D2D from multiple cameras:dankk2:
""There are also limits to how long the Firewire run can be.""
Our local TV station has some cameras controled from about 300 Ft away over firewire and optic cable. the set up is really close to how I described before, so do not tell me it does not work because I wen to see it for my self, after all of you made me doubt it
As for ""If each camera operator did not have our app and a screen, how would they know what they were getting?""
Remember that the only operator will be Me, My self and I, just like I am doing it now with this device to control the motion "Pan, Zoom, and Tilt http://grizzlypro.com/systems.htm#rthreels But I like your product to do the other things this one canot do
To make it short, your software will do calibration and D2D Rec and the grizzly will do the motion..that way I will be almost unnoticeable with total control of at least 3 cameras
Thank you Bena for giving us this wonderful app and remember do not let cannon beat you with their up-coming console app for macs
I think this should be A Must Have Option
bena said:
Recording D2D from multiple cameras:dankk2: ""There are also limits to how long the Firewire run can be.""
Our local TV station has some cameras controled from about 300 Ft away over firewire and optic cable. the set up is really close to how I described before, so do not tell me it does not work because I wen to see it for my self, after all of you made me doubt it
As for ""If each camera operator did not have our app and a screen, how would they know what they were getting?""
Remember that the only operator will be Me, My self and I, just like I am doing it now with this device to control the motion "Pan, Zoom, and Tilt http://grizzlypro.com/systems.htm#rthreels But I like your product to do the other things this one canot do
To make it short, your software will do calibration and D2D Rec and the grizzly will do the motion..that way I will be almost unnoticeable with total control of at least 3 cameras
Thank you Bena for giving us this wonderful app and remember do not let cannon beat you with their up-coming console app for macs
We are currently doing a full low level rewrite of DV Monitor to take advantage of Core Image and other things to talk directly to the camera. This will mean much lower CPU usage when using the screen calibration and flipping.
Recording is coming a long nicely.
We will be At DV Expo, more than likely in the Pro Max booth.
We will also be showing at the LA FCPUG on Nov 15th.
More as things develop.
Recording is coming a long nicely.
We will be At DV Expo, more than likely in the Pro Max booth.
We will also be showing at the LA FCPUG on Nov 15th.
More as things develop.
Does anyone have experience with BTV Pro? http://www.bensoftware.com/btvpro.html
I'm a long time lurker and first time poster. I have to say that I was disappointed with my first DV Monitor experience. I downloaded the software on my 12" PB G4 867mhz with 640MB of RAM and 20 free gigs and hooked up my DVX100a with no success. The application repeatedly quits and try to restart.
Don't get me wrong, I know this PB barely meets the tech specs but I was hoping it would at least function as a monitor and save me some rentals on a nine inch field monitor. I sent an e-mail to tech support about four hours ago and have not had a response yet.
I have been waiting for DV Monitor to support the HVX before upgrading my DVX and this was certainly not a promising first experience. I am still very excited about the prospect of using DV Monitor for my DVX and eventually my HVX but would like to be sure of what the tech specs are before I decide I need to get a faster laptop.
Has anyone else had similar results?
Thanks,
Michael Samstag
Director, War & Truth
Don't get me wrong, I know this PB barely meets the tech specs but I was hoping it would at least function as a monitor and save me some rentals on a nine inch field monitor. I sent an e-mail to tech support about four hours ago and have not had a response yet.
I have been waiting for DV Monitor to support the HVX before upgrading my DVX and this was certainly not a promising first experience. I am still very excited about the prospect of using DV Monitor for my DVX and eventually my HVX but would like to be sure of what the tech specs are before I decide I need to get a faster laptop.
Has anyone else had similar results?
Thanks,
Michael Samstag
Director, War & Truth
Hate to confirm what you said, but that PB 12" doesn't even come close to the CPU power to do what apps like DV Monitor require.
Moreover, it is a couple of generations old.
Might want to try the app on a beafier model before being disapppointed.
Moreover, it is a couple of generations old.
Might want to try the app on a beafier model before being disapppointed.
I'm fully prepared to go out and buy a new laptop to make this work. However, according to Bena, and the minimum spec on the website, my little 867 should work.
Here's what Bena said in an earlier quote:
"We are close, but we are still optimizing the software to make a 6 year old Powerbooks a viable platform, no promises that we will ultimately achieve this goal, but we are working hard to do so."
Here's the specs from the website:
-Mac OS 10.4 or higher
-Apple computer, PowerPC Mac (G5 867 MHZ)
-Quartz Extreme capable graphics card.
My little old PB meets those specs, as I said I would love to see it work at least as a monitor for standard DV--trust me, I'm not holding my breath!
Here's what Bena said in an earlier quote:
"We are close, but we are still optimizing the software to make a 6 year old Powerbooks a viable platform, no promises that we will ultimately achieve this goal, but we are working hard to do so."
Here's the specs from the website:
-Mac OS 10.4 or higher
-Apple computer, PowerPC Mac (G5 867 MHZ)
-Quartz Extreme capable graphics card.
My little old PB meets those specs, as I said I would love to see it work at least as a monitor for standard DV--trust me, I'm not holding my breath!
That was introduced nearly four years ago.
Good luck on getting it to work.
Good luck on getting it to work.
TimeKoder13
Well-known member
Mars United said:
Funny how many of us use the cheap PCs as throw away comps. I'm a whatever works type of guy, but I too go into conniptions whenever anythiong gets near my Mac, yet routinely set food, beverage and flammables on and around my PCs.
Stay tuned for Scopebox.
Hi,
This is the first we have heard of our App not working on any mac.
I suggested the user remove the Pref file and also create a new User Profile.
The only other thing I can think of, is parts of the system are missing or need updating like Quicktime.
If I could get my hands on this Mac I could get it running, I am really good at troubleshooting macs
IF the above does not fix it, I would strongly suggest that you do an Archive and Install of Mac os 10.4, then update the os back up to 10.48.
The 866 will work with DV Monitor, the frame rate might suffer and I would not even think of turning on image fliping or Screen Calibration. But the app should not be crashing.
I can say that with our low level rewrite you would want a new Mac Book Pro to take advantage of the New Core Image routines we are using.
Plus if you want to record, monitor and have scopes, the G4 line is just not going to cut it.
Ben
This is the first we have heard of our App not working on any mac.
I suggested the user remove the Pref file and also create a new User Profile.
The only other thing I can think of, is parts of the system are missing or need updating like Quicktime.
If I could get my hands on this Mac I could get it running, I am really good at troubleshooting macs
IF the above does not fix it, I would strongly suggest that you do an Archive and Install of Mac os 10.4, then update the os back up to 10.48.
The 866 will work with DV Monitor, the frame rate might suffer and I would not even think of turning on image fliping or Screen Calibration. But the app should not be crashing.
I can say that with our low level rewrite you would want a new Mac Book Pro to take advantage of the New Core Image routines we are using.
Plus if you want to record, monitor and have scopes, the G4 line is just not going to cut it.
Ben
msamstag said:
msamstag said:
Long time lurker, first time poster too
Thanks for the heads-up on the 867! I too have been thinking about buying this product for SD monitoring and then upgrading to their HD product when it appears. It seems a little early to write it off, but your situation isn't encouraging. Hopefully they are able to back-up the information provided on their site.
As much respect as I have for the senior members here, to dismiss msamstag's concern with comments about his ancient equipment isn't very fair. The DV Monitor site claims the software work on this hardware... so it should
The 867 is an old unit for sure. But it's size and weight make it a nice option for scopes et all... and the fact that it's now worth maybe $700 (CAD) makes it easier to tolerate a loss (if it's dropped or stolen, heaven forbid.) It's pretty crazy to expect HD monitoring from such an old laptop (not to mention a 12" screen), but with an upgraded int. HD this little beauty *should* handle an SD DV signal
Oh, and while I'm posting, I second SurJones 's question... this thread certainly has gotten some hopes high. I hope things are getting there
