More RED photos from the booth.. camera out of box.. best ones so far

I think these guys were taken up in a UFO and got the plans for this camera...Style was not taken into consideration I guess! But if you get good HD I guess that's the idea.

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Daniel Skubal said:
Holy cow this thing is a beast! The new render from dvinfo looks awesome!

What is your total approximate projected weight for the rig seen in the picture that Jarred put up? Too soon to tell?
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Depends on the style (cine-style, ENG-style) and genre (multiple) within that style you're going to shoot and the needed configuration for it:

S35 prime lens + accessories
S16 prime lens + accessories
S35 zoom lens + accessories
S16 zoom lens + accessories
35mm photo prime + accessories
35mm zoom lens + accessories
2/3" B4 cine prime + accessories
2/3" B4 cine zoom + accessories
2/3" B4 HD ENG zoom + accessories

With EVF or without EVF? With motor or without? With follow focus or without? With lightweight gearless follow focus or with a standard geared follow focus? With a lightweight clipon mattbox, a standard mattbox, or no mattbox at all? With RED's shoulder mount or a 3rd party one? What other accessories will I need for this project? And on and on and on and on...

The weight of a RED One hand held or shoulder mount rig will vary widely from as low as 12 pounds to maybe as high as 22 pounds depending on the above factors. Even at 22 lbs, the rig would be significantly lighter than most of the shoulder and hand held rigs many of us are used to using.

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Thanks Jim. :beer:

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This is close to what I want.

Maybe some of the whingers can stop now. Hey, my new $17K Ferraris rims look too industrial ... Huh ? I don't get some of these posts.

This is one slick rig, and ergonomically cine-smooth.
Leaves room for a focus pulller, with the drive/battery the center of balance should be close, and
the profile isn't bigger than a cam/film magazine combo, if not smaller.

And if you are delivering a Ferrari ( the specs promised), then I don't give two figs if the rims aren't pretty with a frilly bow ( I do dig the basic camera's design). You said something awhile ago ... "let the skeptics be the fuel that drives you". Good advice.

Enjoy a sojourn when Ibc concludes. The skeptics can wait.

:beer:


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yes very good.. if you guys look close, you will realize that the arms of the cage have just been removed like i was explaining yesterday was possible.. a picture is worth a thousand words.
 
Why do the grips rotate outward? If I want to adjust them, the primary direction I want them adjustable is forward reverse. Am I alone in this opinion?
 
I am not a film guy, so I have never had the pleasure of working with the REAL lenses. My question is:

What kind of lens is that on the camera in the pic? Is that a standard 35mm lens? Cause if it is, it does not look to me like RED can AFFORD to be much smaller.. That is one honking big lens.

Jay
 
two things:

Does 120 fps still exist in some shooting formats on this thing

Will Red Cine do the nessesary pulldowns for the codec that cannot handle anything but 23.97 or 29.?? when shooting at either high speed or slow speeds?

Jay
 
donatello said:
"No one is going to be doing long shoots if they have to hold both their arms out to shoot this camera all the time."

that's how it is done shooting 35mm camera's ...
when i shoot 16m i always end up with left hand holding support rod if i don't have 2 grips ...
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Sure, I use both hands too. Even with my large SP Betacam.

It's obvious to me the steering wheel design at present is not for long term use. Short shoots? Sure.

The technology is interesting and exciting but, like many scientists or inventors, they lack real world contact with those who will be the end users. Or maybe it's as I stated earlier. A fine camera that will be used most often on a support system. Tripod or jib. That's fine. I'm not making fun of the advance in technology. Just the silly cage and Playstation style hand grips. All which take up space and limit even more where you can put the camera. Not to mention, to date, the mock up does not include any kind of recording unit. It's already a beast and any future user, especially hand held, must wonder where and how the recording device will be attached.

I appreciate the excitement this design has generated. I'm still going to wait to see the final product...if and when it ever makes it to the market place.:)
 
I hope Lensmith will take the time to read prior posts on this subject. It is getting tiring saying the same things over and over.

Jim
 
I hope you got Jim's hint there Lensmith.... We have already had this EXACT discussion.. Do a little reasearch and you too will gain the knowlege to set you free.

The handles will do anything and everything you want them too.

Jay
 
Thanks.

I'll try and use that search function a little more so as not to offend or "tire" anyone in the future.:D
 
I'm wanting to do some mountaineering stock photography with the red next summer. Do you have weight specs yet on what you expect the Camera, Rails, Red Drive etc?

Thanks. Glad to hear there's full 3d rotation on the grips.
 
It's hard keeping up on all of the threads

It's hard keeping up on all of the threads

There are a lot of different Red chat subjects and it's hard to keep up on all of the replies. I'm glad to hear that there aren't any loose screws or bolts used to affix accessories onto the camera. Jim, I'm glad you decided against the chrome camera body. One thing I don't need to worry about is the camera reflecting light onto my actors or the scene. And lensmith, come on. The handles come off dude. Oh and they're called bike grips. I don't know what playstation you've been playing on. If you want to shoot ENG style then don't look at any of these mock-ups. You're going to need at least one handle and one hand on your follow focus, that is if you want your stuff to be in focus. One question Jim. Can the cage be made smaller? It seems that it would be used as a grip mount and if so, it could be a little tighter to the body to fit in smaller places.
 
Viewfinder position

Viewfinder position

Looking at the mock-ups, the viewfinder hugs the body pretty closely. I just want to emphasize the importance of being able to extend the viewfinder mount and use the left eye if necessary, while keeping the camera on the right shoulder. You never know which of the user's eyes is the dominant one.

Also, I'm perplexed by some people's negative view on the cage. I think a ton of mounting points for accessories is a huge win, so you don't wind up with some half-assed insecure add-on.

That said, it's clear at this point that you can't have the cage on there for shoulder use. Can you have half the cage on (the right-side sections, for example)? Otherwise, where will the aforementioned accessories go?
 
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