Please watch my short noir film 'Causality' I made.

Lakmir0 said:
No, its not silly, he's right. Check out this link:

http://ar.essortment.com/filmnoirdefini_roud.htm

Might want to study up before you insult someone.
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Thanks for the supporting statement. I was just posing a question anyway. To be very technical, wouldn't anything made today, be it color or B/W, have to be considered neo noir. Is noir the same kind of distinction as say horror or action? Is there a separation between the movement and the genre? Another question for example: If you paint impressionistic pictures in todays world, are you an impressionist? Or does that title require the context of a specific space of time, zeitgeist? Again I'm just asking a question. I didn't really mean to start a debate and take away from talking about this movie. It was just a passing comment/question. I didn't expect it to get any response. Sorry.
About the movie, I will say that it kept my interest and I enjoyed the way you did some of the cuts. I just couldn't quite believe the exchanges between the couple being spied on. I wasn't really buying the guy in the wheelchair either, but it didn't matter because it was hilarious. When the girl was getting mad at her husband, I wasn't sure if it was supposed to be funny. The shots seemed kind of drab, but I guess that's fitting for the noir genre. Overall I liked it.
 
Lakmir0 said:
Regardless of that, the term noir means black...so whatever.
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Black as in dark, not the color.

Black Comedy in US terms has nothing to do with color , same with Noir.

Dick Tracy was a colorful noir.

You could argue the Matrix is noir as well.

As for the short - nice work but as someone else posted way too long. Does seem to be more about style than story, but still a solid piece. Good job.

One minor quibble - the TV shot with the tv shows composited just doesn 't fit to me.
 
Neo-noir yes. But not film noir. The film noir period is long gone and L.A. Confidential is not from the film noir period. The film noir period consisted of all black in white films in the style as far as i know. Any scholars I have read or heard from have stated that modern movies, regardless of style, are not true film noir. That is why neo-noir was coined as a term for the modern day variations.
 
Furthermore, true film noir utilized a contrast range of approx. 10:1 which exceeds what you can even do with a DVX.
 
haha i loved this. the guy yelling at his cat, the compulsive woman. they were brilliant.

good job on this good luck with the festival
 
umm could we possibly keep on topic and not about the noir film genre? anybody else have any critique? i think i should maybe change the title.
 
Lakmir0 said:
Neo-noir yes. But not film noir. The film noir period is long gone and L.A. Confidential is not from the film noir period. The film noir period consisted of all black in white films in the style as far as i know. Any scholars I have read or heard from have stated that modern movies, regardless of style, are not true film noir. That is why neo-noir was coined as a term for the modern day variations.
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That's about what I remember from my film school.
 
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I tottally forgot to reply. I'd write something longer but not in the mood, but I will say what I thought.

it was a great short, I'm glad to see something on here thats not just clips. Were you the same guy who made the short with the cannablism? They both look very similar. It was very good. I like the story. I felt the ending was good "the show must go on". However I sort of felt like if he had watched him shot the girl it'd would have been more "orgasmic" so to speak. I know that sounds weird to put it like that, but I felt it would have been a great rush for the main character to expeirence that. I felt it would have paid off better. That's just my opinion though.
 
Neo, means new...Noir, means black... Film, means well....film (or celluloid). Just wondering where in those definitions it states black and white film stock. Yes, as a genre it may have originated on black and white film stock, but tht doesn't mean it has to be shot in black and white. The fact of the matter is that it's a story genre.

Take for example Walter Hill's "Johnny Handsome" Typical noir settings and characters. "Brick" I would argue as being Neo-Noir, because it puts noir characters and plot in a setting which is far removed from the genre. Both however are shot on film, color film to be precise. Noir has even been used to define novels. So would it not be noir if it was printed on the wrong paper? I don't think so.
 
This was a great short! But like someone said before, the sound of the gun wasn't right, you could really tell it was made of plastic... I've got a metal replica of that same gun, maybe I could help you by recording some sounds of it? And also, I would cut out the shot of him loading the gun. Just the part where he actually loads it (he has to "practice" and all that, it was great), because he would then have a bullet in the chamber (correct term?). So, even if our spy without a cause takes out all the bullets in the clip, the gun would still be able to fire. But these are just minor tweaks, the story and the atmosphere was great!
 
I think it's pretty good. I really liked the opening and the ending "the show must go on" (which is golden and the most important part in any movie to get right imo).
Now, it was a bit long as others have said and I also thought it was a bit of an anti-climax with the gun firing. Movies have taught us to know that a bullet should still be in the chamber and I was set-up for and expecting a big bang. Now, it's something I didn't see coming, but if you expect an explosion and you get mickey mouse, doesn't quite work as well as the other way around. If you don't know what'll happen, then it can go either way.

An idea, but cut the unloading the bullets a little shorter and have the sound of the guy coming out of the bathroom scare him off. An audience might be a little less sure of itself if he got all the bullets out or not. Or could take it a step further and intercut the guy walking up the stairs with the stalker getting nervous and hearing his heart beating.

My opinions, do with them whatever you please.
 
thanks for the input. you know, ironically, I used an actual unloaded pistol for the trigger sound effects. Maybe i will delete the part where he cocks the gun, so that we can presume there is no bullet in the chamber.
 
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