Adobe Premire Pro 2.0 n DVX 200?

Edventure

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Hi I just bought it today... the DVX 200? I rented a 4 gig card so I can capture the footage and get it on to my computer to edit.

How do I use it with Adobe Premire 2.0 or After effects 7.0

Thanks so much...



-Ed:)
 
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There is no native support for the HVX200 MXF container format in either of those NLEs. You will need a tool such as Cineform or Raylight to make the material editable.

If you were to shoot DV to tape, then Premiere and AE will be able to use the HVX200 like any other DV deck/camera.
 
You have any idea on which one is best. Will this allow me to edit in the HIGHEST quality format possible? How about all the fomats on the camera?

Thanks for your time.

NOTE:
Also are their any DISADVANTAGES in editing in the format? Is any quality lost?

Thanks again!

Have a great day.

-Ed
 
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Sorry, I have no personal experience with those programs because my editor (Canopus Edius Broadcast 4) reads and writes HVX200 MXF files.

My suggestion would be to use the Search button at the top of the page and read about other people's experience with Cineform and Raylight -- they have been discussed at length.
 
Formats are just wrappers...

Formats are just wrappers...

MXF, QT, AVI... they're all just wrappers around the footage. Canopus and Avid will take MXF, Adobe is happy w/ AVI I believe, and FCP is of course the QT choice. The footage underneath the file extension will remain the same though (in content and quality). So if you're an Adobe guy, just use one of the recommended programs to swap out from the MXF wrapper to the AVI wrapper and you should load it up just fine, no quality loss.

Where you will see the quality loss is in your NLE on your sequence/timeline settings. If you chose lower quality codecs then the footage you see will be degraded (even if the raw files are not). But if you keep everything in the DVC Pro HD world then you won't have any loss (you might see articial losses depending on what kind of viewing/monitoring setup you have).

cheers.
 
You still need a codec to make sense of what is inside the container format, and Adobe doesn't give you that. It's not quite as simple as "swap out from the MXF wrapper to the AVI wrapper".
 
Thanks for the thougts guys. I see I have some research to do but I am up for it.

I download the trail version of Raylight and I noticed the quality was fine... until I rendered it for realtime playback in Adobe and then there was lots of grain and some jumping in play back, though the jumping was slight.


I tried to install CineForm but it would not convert becaue "P2 Viewer was not installed" Though I did it. I noticed that was a problem for some as I found it on the forms before.

Thanks though!

-Ed
 
Edventure said:
Thanks for the thougts guys. I see I have some research to do but I am up for it.

I download the trail version of Raylight and I noticed the quality was fine... until I rendered it for realtime playback in Adobe and then there was lots of grain and some jumping in play back, though the jumping was slight.


I tried to install CineForm but it would not convert becaue "P2 Viewer was not installed" Though I did it. I noticed that was a problem for some as I found it on the forms before.

Thanks though!

-Ed

Ed- I noticed you began this thread stating you bought the DVX200 . . . one assumes, however, that what you took out of the box was an HVX-200, no?

If I could recommend you take the time to install the free P2 Viewer software, then you will at least be able to view (while not a perfect solution) the footage you shot in the first place -- as a reference.

The description of your experience with Raylight/Premiere (and this is simply a wild-a** guess) suggests that you haven't followed (or read) the instructions that Marcus has posted at DVFilm regarding how to set up your project in Premiere. I would take the time to review that information as I believe it will have dramatic impact on your result.

Sometimes we all get going a little too fast . . .

Best.
 
I use the Cineform Aspect HD, and have had very little trouble. At the moment there is a snag if you want to output the file as a *.m2t file, but using the cineform intermediate AVI has been a good experience. Realtime viewing and a very clean look. Apparently the m2t thing is a licensing or legal issue rather than a glitch.
 
Dermfellow, are .m2t files associated with HDV in any way? Like for export back to an HDV camera?

The DVX200 is a hybrid camera prototype. It's twice the camera the DVX is, and half the camera the HVX is.
...According to the brochure they never released, of course.
 
I also use Cineform Apect HD for Premiere Pro 2. It's different than most of the other solutions because it converts DVCPro to a more efficient codec that is visually lossless (or visually identical to the native camera footage). Since it's more efficient than DVC Pro you'll get faster playback and rendering, especially with Aspect HD in PP2.

Aspect HD is also great for multigeneration work, especially for After Effects.

There's a huge thread about Cineform, in the general HVX section. Check it out.

And yes, .m2t files are for HDV. We don't really have a need for that.
 
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