35mm to 1080i DVCPRO 100- Can it be done? Can it be done in Toronto?

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Alon99

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Hi Everyone,

I've been shooting with the HVX and enjoying it a lot, especially the way I'm able to edit in the DVCPRO-100 format. I'm directing a short on Super35 later this week, and I was wondering if there's any place in Toronto (or anywhere, really!) that will take that 35mm negative and scan it to a DVCPRO-100 1080i file, just like I'd get from my HVX.

I spoke to Technicolor, and they're not set up for the tapeless workflow yet. A lot of high costs are getting thrown around to transfer to D5. Rather than doing a standard-def offline, i'd much rather do a DVCPRO-100 high-def offline.

Any help would be appreciated!

Alon
 
Get Technicolor a VTR...

Get Technicolor a VTR...

Not from Toronto, so don't know the local post houses, so going from that basis, something you could try...

Talk to someplace like Sim Video or a facility that will rent out VTRs and see if any has a Panasonic DVC Pro HD VTR (ie AJ-1200). Rent it, and give it to Technicolor to use. Then Technicolor can firewire or SDI into the VTR and transfer to DVC Pro HD 1/4 incch cassettes. The deck can write 1080i as long as it the necessary boards (some AJ-1200's may be players only, not recorders). The recorder does record at 100 Mbps.

cheers.
 
Give i-cubed a try. I know they do s16/35 to D5.

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Hi SPZ,

I'll be editing on a Macbook, so I can't support uncompressed 10bit HD. Basically, I'm just looking for a way to get this material into the macbook at a higher quality than MiniDV. Once it's all cut etc. and we've found some additional money, we'll go back and do a proper online of it.

As long as I have it transfered to a DVCPRO-100 tape format, I'll be able to capture through firewire and ingest it the same way I would as if I was shooting P2, correct?

Alon
 
DVC Pro tape is fine

DVC Pro tape is fine

Alon,

If you have it transferred to DVC Pro DP 121 or DP 1001 (?) cassettes you can digitize it at DVC Pro HD quality or at an offline quality (tones of options, just depends what you have installed and thus what particular codecs appear in your pull down list). You might want to go with some less than DVC Pro HD quality if you're concerned about the stress on the laptop though. But if that's what you want, you can certainly do that.

This is different then 'ingestion' of P2 footage though. This is typical tape based workflow. Which means it requires logging and digitizing of footage. P2 ingestion simply requires the processing of the MXF wrapper to an FCP friendly MOV wrapper (its already digitized). The rest is automated for you (even moreso if you use P2 Logger).

cheers.
 
Alon99 said:
Hi Everyone,

I've been shooting with the HVX and enjoying it a lot, especially the way I'm able to edit in the DVCPRO-100 format. I'm directing a short on Super35 later this week, and I was wondering if there's any place in Toronto (or anywhere, really!) that will take that 35mm negative and scan it to a DVCPRO-100 1080i file, just like I'd get from my HVX.

I spoke to Technicolor, and they're not set up for the tapeless workflow yet. A lot of high costs are getting thrown around to transfer to D5. Rather than doing a standard-def offline, i'd much rather do a DVCPRO-100 high-def offline.

Any help would be appreciated!

Alon
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Try Notch on Peter St. they could probably give you files that you can con vert to any format. G-luck
 
check out BONOLABS.COM
they telecine 35mm and 16mm (and super8mm) direct to Uncompressed 10-bit or DVCPRO HD quicktime files. They send them to you on a firewire drive!
 
This is where I went and the process I used.

I went to a local post house here in MN called Crash & Sue's.
http://www.crash-sues.com/index.html

3600 feet of Super 16 color neg. (they will do 35 as well)
5 hours online with the colorist and transfer to D5
1 hour offline capture with FCP to DVC PRO 100 and saved on to my hard drive.

After I imported the 1080i 24p footage into my FCP system, I used Cinema Tools to bring it back to 24p. For me, I find nice to have the master on D5 with the same timecode.

I know this isn't Toronto but I hoped this helped in some way.
 
Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the responses! I've been working with Deluxe on a deal for a transfer, and they'll do a telecine to HDCAM SR for a really good price. As a part of it, they'll do the downconvert to D-Beta, and then DVCam for regular 720 editing on the offline.

What should I tell / ask them to do in order to get it as a digital file? Brian@202020, you captured direct to your hard drive? Did they need to do a downconvert? Was it directly out of the telecine? If you could describe your workflow a bit more, that would be great.

5ive, I'll definitely contact Notch. Maybe I can just bring my HDCAM SR tapes there and get them to do the downconvert / digitizing.

I've got 8000 feet of Super35, which was shot on Fuji Super-F 250D. Does anyone know if cinematools will support the Fuji "Mr Code" system? It's their own version of keycode.

Alon
 
If you are paying for them to digitize your footage, just go uncompressed HD. Once you have that you can make any offline quality you want, like DVCPRO HD. But you also have a master, which can serve as your online source, or if need be, it can be used to go back to film through a scanner. Also, i would not telecine to HD CAM, its actually a more compressed format tape, go to D5. Its 10 bit 4:2:2, HDCAM is 8 bit. Unless you go to HD CAM SR which is 10 or 12 bit and 4:2:2 or 4:4:4.
 
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