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Yep,

It's important to remember that Jarred is basically a one man band running all over the country putting on bootcamps, designing and selling T Shirts, batteries, coordinating and running this contest, and doing all of the programming and design for this site ... and getting in some pickup shots for Speilberg and shooting a doc or a slasher pic along the way

Sure he picks up a buck or two for batteries and what not, and the site has some sponsors, but nothing in comparisson to the costs of maintaining the site and the sheer number of hours he puts in.

Its easy to forget because the site seems so "big time" and supported, and their are great mods here, but when push come to shove, Jarred is the one up until butcrack A.M. burning DVD's and encoding very single movie for web viewing (for the last fest).

(I know Debranne and others help. But its still a lot for one dood even with a little help from his friends.)

The only pay he gets for putting these contests together is our thanks.

:thumbsup:
 
Noct said:
but 720p is the very definition of SD that the HD's ultimately being rendered down to. I'm a bit confused ...
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It's not being rendered down. HD is referred to by horizontal resoltion and when they say 720, they mean 1280 X 720, so almost twice the size of SD. At least that's the size I think he means. I have heard 1280 X 720 referred to as "720".

Jack
 
Jack Daniel Stanley said:
Yep,

It's important to remember that Jarred is basically a one man band running all over the country putting on bootcamps, designing and selling T Shirts, batteries, coordinating and running this contest, and doing all of the programming and design for this site ... and getting in some pickup shots for Speilberg and shooting a doc or a slasher pic along the way

Sure he picks up a buck or two for batteries and what not, and the site has some sponsors, but nothing in comparisson to the costs of maintaining the site and the sheer number of hours he puts in.

Its easy to forget because the site seems so "big time" and supported, and their are great mods here, but when push come to shove, Jarred is the one up until butcrack A.M. burning DVD's and encoding very single movie for web viewing (for the last fest).

(I know Debranne and others help. But its still a lot for one dood even with a little help from his friends.)

The only pay he gets for putting these contests together is our thanks.

:thumbsup:
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And for all that Jarred I thank you, we thank you! :) :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
 
Who does the artwork for the DVD's?

I really liked the ZombieFest cover. Sci-Fi was Sexy. Hero is cool.

Who does this work?

EJ
 
snodart said:
As for the SD vs. HD, if my mind is working correctly right now... It seems that their should either be two separate categories or one category for all of equal res. Probably not a good idea for this time around... just too late in the game.
:dankk2:
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Sorry for the confusion guys. This contest is all about getting you guys out making movies. Its so you get some real world uses with your cameras. In the real world, if you make a film right now your competing with HD material. If you shoot a show on SD and are selling it through a sales agent or even directly, your competing against other shows that more and more are shot in HD.. its the way the industry works. The distributor isnt going to say " oh its ok here is a pile of SD shows and a pile of HD shows".. they are all together. Its like entering Sundance, there is Film, there is SD and HD. There isnt seperate catagories for each, and when they are shown you know exactly what format they are in.

But, if it makes everyone feel a little better, I will see the ratio and maybe split things up. But trust me, a bad film at 720 is just as bad at 480.
 
I agree totally with that last statement:
"a bad film at 720 is just as bad at 480".

I've seen some garbage and I don't care how big or clear it is, it's still garbage.
 
Jarred Land said:
Sorry for the confusion guys. This contest is all about getting you guys out making movies. Its so you get some real world uses with your cameras. In the real world, if you make a film right now your competing with HD material. If you shoot a show on SD and are selling it through a sales agent or even directly, your competing against other shows that more and more are shot in HD.. its the way the industry works. The distributor isnt going to say " oh its ok here is a pile of SD shows and a pile of HD shows".. they are all together. Its like entering Sundance, there is Film, there is SD and HD. There isnt seperate catagories for each, and when they are shown you know exactly what format they are in.

But, if it makes everyone feel a little better, I will see the ratio and maybe split things up. But trust me, a bad film at 720 is just as bad at 480.
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I see your point Jarred. In all honestly, I'm just thankful that you put this thing together for everybody. I am also content with the current rules. I guess I was just comparing it to a festival showing SD movies on screens that were smaller than the screens used for HD and Film movies, simply because they were shot SD. I agree though that a good film is a good film no matter the size or format, and I know that the size won't make any difference in my judging.

Thanks again!
 
I agree with everyone's praise of Jarred. This contest has been a wonderful expierence for me.

But I still have one issue that I don't think has been properly addressed. I don't mind the HVX guys being able to use their full resolution - that's more than acceptable. However, I have a big problem with the DVX guys not being able to use their full resolution, especially when it's smaller to begin with. I agree with Jared in the sense that it should be SD Vs. HD - but not, as Jack Daniel Stanlley so aptly put it, Postage Stamp Vs. HD.

The 40MB limit is fine, but if you're going to force resolution changes, in my book, it'd be fair to force them on everyone. Not neccesarily to the same resolution, but at least make everyone's smaller.
 
Hey guys... What's a Good Audio compression? I think i'm ready! just need to make sure its got the best sound possible. :)

/j
 
Edgen said:
Hey guys... What's a Good Audio compression? I think i'm ready! just need to make sure its got the best sound possible. :)

/j
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encode it into an ac3 file. It sounds really good. I compared it to a 320kbps mp3. They're about the same size. Your ac3 encoder should have some sort of preset for DVD preparation.
 
Drats! I can't find an AC3 encoding option. I'm exporting it from premiere and the file alone with no audio compression is sitting at 260 megs. I did however keep the encode at 100% quality so maybe lowering that would help too.

perhaps i'll have to dump it into AE first?

/j
 
How does the mpeg2 w/ audio compression sound in Premiere? If it sounds good just go that route. 260 megs sounds about right for an mpeg2. I think mine was like 223mb's or so, without sound that is. That's why I encoded the ac3 separately. It's a stand alone audio file that preps it for dropping it straight onto a DVD burn.
 
H.264 uses ACC so if you select that for your web version then you have ACC.
ACC is a "lossless codec", but I never downsample my audio. I just select h.264 and leave the audio at 48/16 ... occasionally I'll go down to 44.1/16

so using H.264/ACC you basically get CD quality

So for MPEG2's I wouldn't worry about which audio codec either. Just set it to 48/16 and you are good to go.
 
I think he'll be ok with the h.264 stuff.

I wasn't satisfied with Vegas' MPEG2 audio codec. It just didn't sound right to me. Premiere could be different maybe? If you don't notice any artifacts just go with it. I'm curious.
 
Ok.. Found another exporting function... I think i'll be set. now to just sit and watch the wheels spin...

for the h.264... do I keep it at 100%? or Should a shift it down more?

Also, if I still can't find the Audio Encode, what would you suggest for a suitable replacement?

/j
 
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