toke lahti
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That lcd will miss at least 90% of the resolution...OliverM said:
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Sam Fisher
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You need to read this interview with Jim. It answers a lot of the questions asked here in the last couple of days, especially about the LCD. The resolution of the LCD hasn't been announced yet, but one good thing is the overscan which is a great feature.
http://www.studiodaily.com/main/news/6388.html
http://www.studiodaily.com/main/news/6388.html
craigbowman
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At 4:4:4 raw, this is going to be one sweet camera for green screen and fx work!
I think most realize that RED is a camera to grow into and is also (if it matches the specs and performance) viable right out of the box. If this thread is any indication though, I'm sure it'll have to be repeated quite a bit.
Personally, I am also looking forward to putting Super16mm or RED 35mm lenses on the camera. To pick the lenses to fit the theme/story is a huge plus, for me.
Cheers.
Personally, I am also looking forward to putting Super16mm or RED 35mm lenses on the camera. To pick the lenses to fit the theme/story is a huge plus, for me.
Cheers.
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caseyhayward
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Drooooool
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I remember not too long ago thinking that the specs on the HVX sounded waaaay too good to be true for a $6-10K camera (all those resolutions, frame rates, P2, tape recording etc.) it blew my mind. And yet there it is out in the field shooting great images. The tendency on this forum (dvx/hvx user.com) toward disbelief about what the red camera will be capable of is surprising to me. I will watch and wait and when footage is produced I think we will all be pleased.
BTW-LOL about getting shot while using the red camera. That's the first thing I thought when I saw that gun shoulder mount.
Drooooool
I remember not too long ago thinking that the specs on the HVX sounded waaaay too good to be true for a $6-10K camera (all those resolutions, frame rates, P2, tape recording etc.) it blew my mind. And yet there it is out in the field shooting great images. The tendency on this forum (dvx/hvx user.com) toward disbelief about what the red camera will be capable of is surprising to me. I will watch and wait and when footage is produced I think we will all be pleased.
BTW-LOL about getting shot while using the red camera. That's the first thing I thought when I saw that gun shoulder mount.
Palace Films
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Yeah this thing looks and sounds great but seriously, HOW can you guys afford this thing??!! $17,500 w/out the lens!!!!! IT'S THE PRICE OF A NEW CAR! You guys must be making some great cash. WOW!!!
Palace Films said:
Yea but if you rent it out..... and use it for paying jobs, you can make the money back in no time. less than a year.
davidpula
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that's what i kept telling myself, then i asked a producer about the idea of buying and then renting it out....was told it's not really a great solution. first of all there would be a lot of insurance issues/ who's gonna rent from a nobody when they can rent from a reputable company/////it's only feasible if you plan to actually do the shooting yourself on the camera as a package deal for a client....
toke lahti
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The fact still is that there's no 3.5" lcd on the market that has even full SD resolution. Overscan won't help when trying to display 11Mpx picture with eg. 0.5 Mpx display.Sam Fisher said:
Cutting out optical viewfinder cuts the price of the camera significantly, but that's also one thing that you can't add afterwards. The first downgrade from total modularity.
Maybe after 5 years optical viewfinder wouldn't be necessary any more when there's fullHD oled viewfinders and small screens. In the mean time...
TheYankee said:
$5K is pretty conservative for a lens. That'll get you a decent 35mm format prime, but for a usable zoom, you'll have to spend at least $15,000, and even then you'll have a lens with something of a breathing problem.
My strategy, unless Red gives us a better option themselves, would be to get something like an old set of Superspeeds of Canon/Optex primes: totally functional, fast glass without any breathing problems.
Of course, I imagine 4k will reveal the sharpness limitations of many of these lenses the way high-end DSLRs do with still photo lenses.
Will
taubkin
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With such a compact camera, I have a few reservations about using a 35mm zoom. Those lenses are HUGE!
BUT a super 16 zoom lens can be had for around 5K too. So that should cover one side of the equation.
An old prime kit would be a great idea, but unfortunately, would also be in the range of 8-12K...
BUT a super 16 zoom lens can be had for around 5K too. So that should cover one side of the equation.
An old prime kit would be a great idea, but unfortunately, would also be in the range of 8-12K...
Sam Fisher
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toke lahti said:
I think Jim has made exactly the right choice. I used to shoot on an old Mitchel (eek! I'm giving away my age here) with a paralax viewfinder. In my experience you don't focus for 35mm without a DOF chart and a tape measure. Focus pullers don't look through the eyepiece, that's just a fact. Maybe it's a documentary versus dramatic film thing, but from my point of view it could work. Now, that being said, they do have to put a pretty good lcd (or?) on there, but Jim sounds like he's looking into high end options not currently on the market.
One other thing I said elsewhere and I'll repeat here: this is a small lightweight camera and if you want really good cinematic operating you have to go with a geared head. The market is going to need a lower cost geared head. Fluid heads and small camearas just don't mix.
Matt Gottshalk
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dalen7 said:
"Breathing" is when you rack focus a zoom and the apparent focal length changes.