FCP 5.1 adds some support for XLH1

Choose an Easy Setup that corresponds to your Canon HDV XL-H1 footage:
HDV - 1080i50 FireWire Basic
HDV - 1080i60 FireWire Basic

Great find Barry!
 
How is this support? I've always been able to capture the interlace recordings with the Sony HDV easy setup.

All that matters now is 24F support or not.
 
Really? Weird. Okay, well, the document said that they'd added support so I thought I'd post it here. If there's nothing new here, then... move along, nothing to see...

Here's what they said:
Canon HDV XL-H1 Support​
Final Cut Pro 5.1 recognizes the Canon HDV XL-H1 camcorder for most Final Cut Pro operations, including Log and Capture and Print to Video.​
To set up Final Cut Pro to capture and output to the Canon HDV XL-H1 camcorder:
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Connect one end of a FireWire cable to a FireWire port on your computer, and the other end to a FireWire port on your camcorder.​


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Choose Final Cut Pro > Easy Setup.​


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Select the Show All checkbox in the Easy Setup dialog.​


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Choose an Easy Setup that corresponds to your Canon HDV XL-H1 footage:​

HDV - 1080i50 FireWire Basic​
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HDV - 1080i60 FireWire Basic
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Canon HDV XL-H1 Setup​
When using the Canon HDV XL-H1 camcorder with Final Cut Pro, keep the following in mind:​
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Final Cut Pro captures the first two audio channels only, even though the camcorder can record four channels. (With the addition of a third-party HD-SDI video interface, it is possible to capture four channels.)
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For proper DV Start/Stop Detection operations, set the clock of the Canon HDV XL-H1 camcorder before recording any footage with it. (This is a one-time step for new camcorders.)​

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The Log and Capture window may be unresponsive when the FREERUN-PS option is chosen on the Canon HDV XL-H1 camcorder. You can change this setting on the camcorder by pressing the Menu button and then choosing Signal Setup > Time Code > Count-Up > Rec-RUN.​

 
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starway2001@mac.com said:
I wonder if there's a "remove advanced pulldown" check box on that preset?
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Good point/question. The 24f footage is on tape as some variant of 60i with 48 fields of data plus some repeat flags, I believe. So perhaps there is 24f support in 5.1 after all. Hope springs eternal. Somehow I think they'd be tooting their own horn and explicitly claiming it if they actually had it, though.

I will say, even though 24f support is lagging, I'm glad Canon decided to use the full 25mb bandwith for video information, instead of wasting it on redundant frames.
 
I'm with you there, John. I do think they would explicitly spell out **24F** if they really supported it. Hope I'm wrong. I'm in the middle of a project and will definitely avoid the update until I'm ready, but I am curious.

Would 24F count as "advanced pulldown"? Isn't it laid to tape differently than advanced pulldown in true 24p SD mode?
 
Elton said:
Would 24F count as "advanced pulldown"? Isn't it laid to tape differently than advanced pulldown in true 24p SD mode?
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Pulldown is certainly the terrm that covers progressive to interlace adaptation. So I think it would make sense for them to use that checkbox/term to cover 24f.

From what I've heard, Canon doesn't actually insert extra copies of fields, but instead flag fields to be repeated. Basically what happens on a 24p DVD. For formats that don't allow repeat flagging, they have to actually insert copies of the fields themselves, taking up precious bandwidth in the process. On uncompresses formats that doesn't make any difference, but on a compressed format you're giving up bandwidth for no reason.
 
So, basically they want us to pony up $49 for an upgrade to 5.1 just to find out if 24F is supported or not. Which is probably isn't. And then in a month they'll want us to pony up another $499 for a full FCP6 upgrade.

Is this Apple we're talking about or Microsoft!!!!
 
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