work question - is this legal?

ugafan

ugafan

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at the hospital my wife works at, the employees were recently told they can't take any personal time off for the rest of the year. my wife has accumulated a couple of weeks of paid PTO. legally, can they do this?
 
PTO is a benefit from the employer. If their HR is competent, they will already have a published "Policy" which will cover your question. OTOH, if they have no published policy, they are at risk for a claim or suit.
 
ugafan said:
at the hospital my wife works at, the employees were recently told they can't take any personal time off for the rest of the year. my wife has accumulated a couple of weeks of paid PTO. legally, can they do this?
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I have no idea - but I'm just curious, are they telling them the time off they have accumulated will not carry over into next year on top of that?

If so, they're effectively just taking it away.
 
Luis Caffesse said:
I have no idea - but I'm just curious, are they telling them the time off they have accumulated will not carry over into next year on top of that?

If so, they're effectively just taking it away.
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i believe it will carry over next year. it just really sucks because my wife hasn't taken any time off and now she can't for the rest of the year. it stinks that they would just change things up, they've never done anything like this before.
 
My understanding is that the "blackout" times can change without notice, but this seems pretty extreme. Of course, every state has its own employment laws (Florida's are ****-all). I would read her employment manual cover to cover.
 
Bring your wife down here, and my wife will get her a great job at a good hospital, AND a sign on bonus. Then you and me can dump the wives off at work, and get drunk at EPCOT ;)
 
Short answer: no

Long answer: I actually haven't read the complete question yet. Give me a moment...

...well, all I have is this: what you essentially said when you typed "Paid PTO" is "Paid paid time off" isn't that a bit redundant? The answer is yes. :)

Oh, yeah, *generating standard vague response* that sucks.
 
Nurses accrue Paid Personal Leave, just like paid vacation time. I'm thinking it is not legal for them to do this, but that has never stopped big employers before.
 
And according to my wife, no, it should not be legal. But if they don't have a Union, they are basically floor mats in white. BRING IN THE UNION!
 
Yes it's legal. They don't have to offer any paid time off, but who would work for them. There is a reason it falls under employee "benefits". Any company can state the needs of the business are such that you can not take personal or vacation time whenever they want. Not saying it doesn't suck, but they own the place.

As the Capt alluded to, Unions were formed as leverage to persuade employers not to be big turds to employees. However if she is in a Union I'm sure the contract states the needs of the business supersede whatever vacation policy is outlined. Of course if they do this a bunch then they are gonna have the union down their throat. Not fun for anyone.

Sucks man. Sorry.
 
tonight my wife asked her supervisor about situations when an employee gets sick. they told her that if she was sick they would not pay her for days missed even though she has time accumulated to cover it. what the hell is that?
 
How about a 2K sign on bonus? There are other places hiring... always hiring. If that isn't enough to make her leave, have her look into Traveling. They pay for the travel, a good portion of your lodging, and a huge sign on bonus, plus more per hour. They (Scumbag employers) like to treat nurses like they are a dime a dozen. LEAVE THEM! Drop them like a sack of taters and go elsewhere.
 
ugafan said:
tonight my wife asked her supervisor about situations when an employee gets sick. they told her that if she was sick they would not pay her for days missed even though she has time accumulated to cover it. what the hell is that?
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That's basically a hospital encouraging sick employees to come to work. Ironic, no? It also sounds quite craptastic. But all of this should be spelled out in her contract/union stuff/employee handbook. Although it still sounds suspect regardless. I mean, vacation and PPTO is always subject to supervisor approval, but I'm not sure how they can just not pay her instead of charging a PPTO day if she's sick.

Is your wife a nurse? I can't imagine any hospital wanting to tick off nurses at the moment. I thought there were shortages everywhere.
 
There are some shortages, because hospitals are moving techs into the roles nurses held, because they get paid less. They feed loads of horse apples to nurses, causing them to extend the middle finger and seek employment elsewhere. These greedy bastards are even going as far as to bring in nurses from the Philippines, who can't speak the language, and have half the training. Makes Leaches sound like a safer compromise, doesn't it?
 
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